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You MUST be describing your pal sumadarson.



Was that your stance with the Cactus 18? What about the accused (and never arrested or charged) pilots caught in USAPA's identity theft witch hunt? Are your convictions consistent, or do they only apply when defending an east pilot?

I pulled the mask off IRA Bob in another thread. He defends terrorists and radicals. Need I say more?

IRA Bob's views:
You know I wanted to ask you what is wrong with a quote from Malcolm X? Do you know anything about him? He is one of my hero's. Why" Because he advocated that blacks seek economic gain as the way to earn political clout. He sought to raise his people up not by lawsuit and legislation but by building up the economic clout to the point where the power structure had to listen because to much money was at stake.

Secondly, The avatar is a picture of an IRA Provo or put a better way an Irish Nationalist facing down the tyranny of Britain as we did when we founded our nation.

Now run along and fetch Doug a beer would you please?

And IRA Bob is "on board" hanging with his Philly bros.

I was born and raised in the PHL area and all kidding aside I'd be real careful with all of this internet bravado. You get "outed" and some of these hard core IAM types will make it their business to find out and word gets around as to which trips you take and you'll NEVER be on the gate on time or be allowed on the ramp until the absolute last moment. It will also NOT be an isolated incident, it will happen for YEARS.
 
None of you smug, angry USAPA fuks have any clue what this man is going through right now. We would have had a joint contract, Capt Aherns would have had a $40k payraise, he could have paid off his house, his life stress would be minuscule compared to what it is now. But alas, you know-it-all DOH fuks had to screw it up for everybody.

Scroll down to the bottom for the sentencing guidelines. He's facing a Class 3 felony. This isn't good folks.


http://www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/13/01204.01.htm&Title=13&DocType=ARS

13-1204. Aggravated assault; classification; definition

(L10, Ch. 241, sec. 1 & Ch. 276, sec. 2)

A. A person commits aggravated assault if the person commits assault as prescribed by section 13-1203 under any of the following circumstances:

1. If the person causes serious physical injury to another.

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C. Except pursuant to subsections D and E of this section, aggravated assault pursuant to subsection A, paragraph 1 or 2 or paragraph 9, subdivision (a) of this section is a class 3 felony except if the victim is under fifteen years of age in which case it is a class 2 felony punishable pursuant to section 13-705

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D. The term of imprisonment for a presumptive, minimum, maximum, mitigated or aggravated sentence shall be within the range prescribed under this subsection. The terms are as follows:

Felony Mitigated Minimum Presumptive Maximum Aggravated
Class 2 3 years 4 years 5 years 10 years 12.5 years
Class 3 2 years 2.5 years 3.5 years 7 years 8.75 years
Class 4 1 year 1.5 years 2.5 years 3 years 3.75 years
Class 5 .5 years .75 years 1.5 years 2 years 2.5 years
Class 6 .33 years .5 years 1 year 1.5 years 2 years
Holy Mackeral! This is what spending 2 million on an unripe case gets you! Instead of crew meals, you guys need to renegotiate gym memberships to work off some of the stress! 😀 By the way, when, and where is your deposition? : 😱
 
Notice that after 767jetz's post, the conversation on the subject of German soldier "unity" basically came to an end.

Notice the number of people who supported his post and how many flagged yours as BS.

Did you happen to miss the part saying his grandfather was NOT a Nazi?

Maybe you also missed the part where his grandfather DID stand up and speak out against the Nazi Party AND his superiors, risking the firing squad to do so, and serving time in confinement for his independent thinking

No one but you would twist it to mean anything else.

many German soldiers were victims of Hitler and the Nazi's
All true points. Don't worry doh nogo, none of that was lost on even the most casual of readers. That is obvious. It's par for the course with him. If he doesn't get a rise out of me, he certainly shouldn't get to you. Consider the source and ignore the little insignificant troll. Name calling is all he's got in that vacant lot he calls a brain. 😉

You say you know a thing or two about the era. While a bit off topic (maybe not) I'll share another story from the man who lived it, if for no other reason but to illustrate how corrupt people in power betray their own, not just the enemies they declare. My ancestors were Germans who settled as farmers in the 1500's in modern day Slovenia. In a deal with Mussolini, Hitler traded their land away promising equal parcels in "Germany." Unbeknownst to them it was not real German land, but land stolen from Styria. Hitler moved ethnic Slovenians from their homes and into "camps" which amounted to mass prisons, placing Germans like my grandfather, who were lied to and expecting real German land, on their farms. (Come to think of it, kind of like USAPA is taking stolen seniority and giving it to the furloughed AFO's while lying to everyone.)

Knowing this, my grandfather went to the camps, spoke through the fences to the captives, found the owner of the land he was placed on, and explained the situation. He told the family that as far as he was concerned it was still the original family's land, he would work the farm and care for it, and when the war ended he would leave peacefully. Then, at great risk of peril to himself, he would regularly sneak food and provisions to them, until he was drafted and sent to the Russian front. Those Slavs who escaped capture disappeared into the hills and formed a rebel army where they conducted guerrilla tactics against the German army and the families living on their stolen land. It turns out that the son of the man my grandfather was sneaking food to, and the rightful owner of that land, was an officer in the rebel army and ordered the farm and my family be spared any harm due to my grandfather's actions.

When the war ended, the rebels took back their land. My grandmother and her children including my father at 7 years old, fled to the allied run refugee camps in Austria, thinking that my grandfather was KIA. When he returned looking for them, the family who had spared them, took my grandfather in, and gave him safe passage to Austria where he searched camp by camp until he found them. Had it not been for my grandfather's distinction between right and wrong, I would no be here writing this right now.

So when a troll like "you-know-who" casts names like nazi at a man who is the epitome of integrity, and navigated war, ethnic cleansing, real human tragedy, the threat of execution for not toting the party line, stolen ancestral land at the hands of Hitler, Russian POW camps working in Serbian mines, and post war refugee camps, only to successfully emigrate his family safely to the US, all I can do is feel sorry for the ignorant fool.
 
Whats is sad is you were quick to malign the guy when you first posted on the subject and questioned commentary about why should people be hands off the subject and not pile on. To paraphrase, why back off because of all the bad things you feel East pilots have done to the West. Now you act is if you are concerned and feel sorry for him and and act as psychoanalyst to deduce what financial stress may have played a part. If he hasn't been tried, then no one knows the facts and speculating about how much trouble he is in some feigned sympathy is pathetic. As if you care beyond some connection you want to make for your own political ends in attacking your union and East pilots and their stand.

Pretty sad, pathetic, and transparent.

How about the victim of the assault? Did you forget about him? He is missing part of his finger because someone decided not to follow the rules. I don't want to be in the room next to him while he lights up.

We all know, rules, ethics and binding arbitration apply only to others. To a fella like this he's above all that. The person missing part of his finger is just a low-life rent-a-cop. Right?
 
You got it all wrong why most of the east posters left. It was the Aqua meltdown and the "FUK" this and that. All coming from the meltdown of the one who founded Leonidas and spent the 2 million. His pending deposition and trial are blowing his head gasket! He is obviously stressing massively. We will all most likely take a nice summer break from the "FUK" stuff-and the Clown King. that is, until Mr. Kasher comes calling. Tune in that day friends. It is going to be a great one! You all have a nice summer, enjoy you party!
 
You got it all wrong why most of the east posters left. It was the Aqua meltdown and the "FUK" this and that.
No. You and others left because you're cowards.

Go call Mrs. Aherns and assure her that DOH is a slam dunk, that the pension is coming back, that LOA93 is a slam dunk, that a 90 cram down contract is a slam dunk, AND THAT IT WAS WORTH IT FOR HER HUSBAND TO SUPPORT THE TERMINATION OF NEGOTIATIONS THAT WOULD HAVE NETTED HIM $40K A YEAR OVER FOUR YEARS AGO.


If any of you have a hair on your yellow a$$e$, you'll do it.

Cowards.
 
Having said that do you think after 3 years the West is getting a little tired of being stabbed in the back?

trader,

Yes, I know the west guys have been tired of this for years. I've said they have valid issues. I've been on the opposite side of many issues than USAPA and most east pilots. What I have an issue is the WAY MANY of them have handled it. For a long time I believed the really bad behavior was from the 5%ers that populate this board, but the real turning point for me was the distance learning PHX crew news. That was an amazing display, and not a good one. I do not remember an east pilot looking at the camera and saying"We hate you guys!" or "they are scumbags, run by scumbags". Do you? The events of yesterday on here just back that up. There has been plenty of bad behavior from both sides, at times I'm ashamed to say that I participated, but I have to say that recently the bulk of the running around with their hair on fire has been from the west.

You had an discussion with V about Germans and Nazis. Well, how many Germans used a chance bad interaction with a Jewish merchant to buy into the "Jews are the evil of the world" theory? They accepted the stories of their leaders that ALL Jew were bad and responsible for the problems of the world and if they could be eliminated all would be good? Now I haven't seen any west pilot advocating killing anyone, but I have seen the same blanket condemnation of all that is east or former US Airways. I don't like it, and I'm tired of it. There is a way of going about standing up for what you believe is right, and lately many westies have been doing it right, IMHO. I'm beginning to believe that we will never recover from it. The west can point fingers and say "Well, you started it!", but will that soothe them as this place craters or they spent the rest of their careers in a cesspool?

If we fly together again I will tell you who I am and we can talk about all of this. Last time we agreed on many things, just not the fairness of the Nic.

Take care.
 
Get real. You USAPA-core fuks are total losers and there's absolutely nothing to fear in saying what you are. LOSERS. Total complete losers. You swindled enough on the East to believe your bullsh!t and now they're paying dearly for it. No joint contract. LOA93 as far as the eye can see. The West has and will easily continue to stand up to you spineless fuks. Go ahead and bring whatever. You're not getting DOH and all your lies have done is harm your own. Witness: Capt Aherns who will end up doing time barring some sort of miracle. The $40k you convinced him to walk away from put him in the position he's now in. Four years of your lies are intimidation are coming to a head.

Coward

I was thinking last night was either alcohol or full moon induced, but I guess not.

Serious question. I know you have absolutely no doubt that the west will win, but do you ever stop to think what the cost of your method will be?

You take care of yourself and don't let this kill you. You don't want to have health issues like Ken did.
 
Get real. You USAPA-core fuks are total losers and there's absolutely nothing to fear in saying what you are. LOSERS. Total complete losers. You swindled enough on the East to believe your bullsh!t and now they're paying dearly for it. No joint contract. LOA93 as far as the eye can see. The West has and will easily continue to stand up to you spineless fuks. Go ahead and bring whatever. You're not getting DOH and all your lies have done is harm your own. Witness: Capt Aherns who will end up doing time barring some sort of miracle. The $40k you convinced him to walk away from put him in the position he's now in. Four years of your lies are intimidation are coming to a head.

Coward
My, my , my! Ask Mrs. Aherns? Lets' ask Mrs. Aqua! What set you off? How long does the paid leave last? Doug and Co. are certainly between a rock and a hard place, and they can't be happy with you for putting them there. They have a nasty little choice coming up. Can you, or give the go ahead to the identity swipers. What will it be? KEEP THE DONATIONS COMING!!! 😀 Seriously, you need to forget the crew meals, and go for the gym memberships.
 
No. You and others left because you're cowards.

Go call Mrs. Aherns and assure her that DOH is a slam dunk, that the pension is coming back, that LOA93 is a slam dunk, that a 90 cram down contract is a slam dunk, AND THAT IT WAS WORTH IT FOR HER HUSBAND TO SUPPORT THE TERMINATION OF NEGOTIATIONS THAT WOULD HAVE NETTED HIM $40K A YEAR OVER FOUR YEARS AGO.


If any of you have a hair on your yellow a$$e$, you'll do it.

Cowards.
OK, I will call her. Would you have Leonidas put it on their web site? I know you have it as well as the rest of the info. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Explain to us again luvthe9 why it's been good for Capt Aherns to forego a $40k payraise four years ago and then default on a mortgage when he was already a captain? Explain to us how the DOH cram down is a sure thing. Explain to us how the West will be crushed by the likes of you. Explain to us why LOA93 was a slam dunk (was...not is) but now will be with pilots like Aherns for several more years. Explain to us why it was a good idea to zero out joint negotiations when they were 75% complete and start again. Explain why it was good for all the pilots why you USAPA fuks have only managed to complete a tenth of a contract in three and a half years.

Well....we're waiting.
 
Explain to us again luvthe9 why it's been good for Capt Aherns to forego a $40k payraise four years ago and then default on a mortgage when he was already a captain? Explain to us how the DOH cram down is a sure thing. Explain to us how the West will be crushed by the likes of you. Explain to us why LOA93 was a slam dunk (was...not is) but now will be with pilots like Aherns for several more years. Explain to us why it was a good idea to zero out joint negotiations when they were 75% complete and start again. Explain why it was good for all the pilots why you USAPA fuks have only managed to complete a tenth of a contract in three and a half years.

Well....we're waiting.
You first, because the numbers are MUCH larger. Why did you spend 2 million on an unripe case?
 
You first, because the numbers are MUCH larger. Why did you spend 2 million on an unripe case?
I doubt pilots like Capt Aherns gives a rat's a$$ about how much Leonidas has raised. He and the others like him only care that they were promised a quick DOH contract with payraises by agreeing to pull the plug on a $40k payraise four years ago. You promised it was a slam dunk. So where is it? Are you going to buy back the house he lost in foreclosure and give it to him?
 
You first, because the numbers are MUCH larger. Why did you spend 2 million on an unripe case?

Statute of Limitations you dumba$$...that and the sheer pleasure of holding the likes of Captain...soon to be "Felon" Aherns financial head under water. Any other questions? :lol: :lol:
 
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