US Pilots Labor Discussion

[mikey60]

You know I have something I'd like to say but alas the cornfield would await me.

Frankly I didn't know a 5th grade vocabulary and level of maturity was all that was required to be a pilot at US Airways. So I guess it was my bad to hold you folks in such high regard. I have never been so annoyed as I have at the conduct here and that goes for both sides. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves. However after 2700 plus pages of immaturity unchained I think I'm asking to much

aint nobody got u by your balls, go look at some porn or somethin and leaf us alone

 

[AWE_SHUCKS]

You know I have something I'd like to say but alas the cornfield would await me.

Frankly I didn't know a 5th grade vocabulary and level of maturity was all that was required to be a pilot at US Airways. So I guess it was my bad to hold you folks in such high regard. I have never been so annoyed as I have at the conduct here and that goes for both sides. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves. However after 2700 plus pages of immaturity unchained I think I'm asking to much

beat it loser

 

[SparrowHawk]

beat it loser

Or what? You'll take away my birthday?

I love internet bullies, typical alligator mouth and a rowboat arse

 

[Res Judicata]

You are correct in that Seham does play fast and loose with his billing. Bottom line is this: he is a hired gun, not a saint. He took a shot in the Wake Courtroom and did what he was paid to do, kill Wake and Leonidas. He thouroughly accomplished that mission. Leonidas on the other hand, under Aqua, spent 2 million on an unripe case, and paved the way for the 9th to back in concrete the Nic was not the only way. Seham in the courtroom against Leonidas? Priceless. Next hired guns? O Dwyer Team Seven. The final battle.

$eham stole millions from your fake union, lost a dfr in under two hours, and solidified your bk era pay rates for a minimum of 7 years longer. And in the end, you're going to be looking at the nic. Award. Aol had to file due to statute of limitations. There was too great a risk of NOT filing. The fact that the statuary limits were met was worth two million. Once again, time for a little clarity.

The ninth did you no favors what so ever. They said it wasn't ripe because uslappy may yet come to their senses...they never met you crazy mfers and apparently thought you were capable of rational thought. Addington proved, without any doubt that when this case gets in front of a jury, uslappy hangs like Moussolini. Because of Addington the company won't touch DOH until given a free pass from the courts...we will see in 2.5 more years about that one...then negotiations for a new contract you could have had since 2005 might get serious. Meaning maybe a year after the dj dust settles you may have a contract...most likely containing the nic award except now you're close to ten years older.

So, to recap, not only did $eham steal directly from you, he ensured you would be paid like a turbo prop pilot for years and years longer than you were ever supposed to. The really effed up thing is you believe this to be a positive thing in your career. Like I said, the ninth never met you delusional mfers. I, unfortunately, have.

So for a mere two million dollars, when the time value of money is factored in, AOL has cost the East pilots multiple BILLIONS of dollars in lost pay, retirement, vacation, and work rules. Actually, it was the crazy delusional East pilots just like you BS that decided to forfeit that mountain of cash...all because you have zero integrity. It's a shame. Go pick up a trip btw, your medical premiums are increasing...your pay...not so much.

 

[traderjake]

I would not say the dumbest, but how about the weakest.

Fighting amongst ourselves instead of fighting the company, I would call that dumb.

How do you propose we become strong when your #1 priority is to screw one third of the group?

 

[apollo]

So for a mere two million dollars, when the time value of money is factored in, AOL has cost the East pilots multiple BILLIONS of dollars in lost pay, retirement, vacation, and work rules.

You are an uneducated individual.

Billions and Billions

 

[apollo]

Fighting amongst ourselves instead of fighting the company, I would call that dumb.

How do you propose we become strong when your #1 priority is to screw one third of the group?

Ok, at least choose between papa was a rolling stone or the theme song from the movie Deliverance.

 

[apollo]

USAPA took over, shortly after this whereas, therefore.

USAPA took over shortly after this resolution

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Fighting amongst ourselves instead of fighting the company, I would call that dumb.

How do you propose we become strong when your #1 priority is to screw one third of the group?

By not letting an internal union dispute screw two thirds! MM! DAN!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

$eham stole millions from your fake union, lost a dfr in under two hours, and solidified your bk era pay rates for a minimum of 7 years longer. And in the end, you're going to be looking at the nic. Award. Aol had to file due to statute of limitations. There was too great a risk of NOT filing. The fact that the statuary limits were met was worth two million. Once again, time for a little clarity.

The ninth did you no favors what so ever. They said it wasn't ripe because uslappy may yet come to their senses...they never met you crazy mfers and apparently thought you were capable of rational thought. Addington proved, without any doubt that when this case gets in front of a jury, uslappy hangs like Moussolini. Because of Addington the company won't touch DOH until given a free pass from the courts...we will see in 2.5 more years about that one...then negotiations for a new contract you could have had since 2005 might get serious. Meaning maybe a year after the dj dust settles you may have a contract...most likely containing the nic award except now you're close to ten years older.

So, to recap, not only did $eham steal directly from you, he ensured you would be paid like a turbo prop pilot for years and years longer than you were ever supposed to. The really effed up thing is you believe this to be a positive thing in your career. Like I said, the ninth never met you delusional mfers. I, unfortunately, have.

So for a mere two million dollars, when the time value of money is factored in, AOL has cost the East pilots multiple BILLIONS of dollars in lost pay, retirement, vacation, and work rules. Actually, it was the crazy delusional East pilots just like you BS that decided to forfeit that mountain of cash...all because you have zero integrity. It's a shame. Go pick up a trip btw, your medical premiums are increasing...your pay...not so much.

LOST A DFR (only a moron couldn't see it wasn't ripe), Risk of not filing( only to be 2mill out of pocket and yes lose your ACE IN THE DESRT),In Front of a NEW JURY(ones not tainted by an aces instructions), 10 years older(man attrition and new duty time rigs rock), Sorry pay as a CAPT is much better than F/O on DUI DOUGS offer, Multiple billions in lost pay? (WESTIE PLEEZ), Medical premiums hell lookin forward to retirement, with all the joint replacements I've had don't you think OUR INSURANCE PREMIUMS won't be added to your NEW CBA! Get REAL, !

 

[BoeingBoy]

You are an uneducated individual.

So an American, who uses the American term for 1 x 10[sup]9[/sup], is ignorant? What do you call 1,000,000,000 and why?

Jim

 

[apollo]

USAPA took over, shortly after this whereas, therefore.

USAPA took over shortly after this resolution

It will get more informative for all in the morning. Nighty Night.

whereas awa will be stuck in the desert untill bought by Repulic, whereas therefored item.

 

[Move2CLT]

You are an uneducated individual.

Billions and Billions

And you admire Cleary's balls.

 

[BoeingBoy]

LOST A DFR (only a moron couldn't see it wasn't ripe)

Don't give up your day job and hang a shingle out front. The statute of limitations isn't a clear line where one side is unripe and the other ripe. There have been DFR cases where the judge ruled that the plaintiffs knew the union's intentions and that that knowledge started the statute of limitations clock so time had run out to file even though a final product hadn't been reached. There have been cases where the judge ruled, like the 9th in Addington, that the end product starts the statute of limitations clock running. Until a judge rules, there's no way of knowing which way that judge will rule. The only way to get a ruling is to file the suit.

Obviously, the best result for the West would have been for the 9th to affirm the lower court ruling. But the second best is getting the 9th to spell out exactly when a DFR suit will be ripe. The new "dream team" or the next after them won't be able to argue that the West filed too late next time.

Heck - Seham has even argued both sides in a single case - that the plaintiffs were too early because the case wasn't ripe AND too late because the statute of limitations had expired. If the West had waited, I'm sure you would have been in the chorus, led by Seham, singing 'The Statute of Limitations Has Run Out"...

Jim

 

[mrbreeze]

You know your arguments would carry far more weight without the personal attacks. Boeing Boy certainly doesn't need me to defend him, however I've always found his posts to be a breath of fresh air in a cesspool of vitriol

I have always found Boeing Boy disecting any conversation, whether it be East or West......splitting hairs, so to speak, but NEVER taking a stand or offering an opinion on a subject. Basically just picking at each poster....same as back on the ALPA web board.

breeze