US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Res Judicata]

No. Just been saving several hundreds of dollars each month on health insurance for the past five years, and will be until there is a joint contract and the Nicolau. So I'll see your $6500 (after taxes) with my $4200 a year in savings and raise you twenty plus years of service left.

20 years and 20+k a year more pay for the last 7 years with unknowable more years of disparities ahead. Brilliant job Scabford And Disciples!!!

 

[apollo]

I should have known better than to respond to the resident heckler of the village. Like gum on the bottom of my shoe now . . .

You should have known better because I require an intelligent answer to my retort. You only mention a shoe and a foot that is protruding out of your mouth.

 

[aquagreen73s]

You should have known better because I require an intelligent answer to my retort. You only mention a shoe and a foot that is protruding out of your mouth.

Did someone say something?

 

[mrbreeze]

No. Just been saving several hundreds of dollars each month on health insurance for the past five years, and will be until there is a joint contract and the Nicolau. So I'll see your $6500 (after taxes) with my $4200 a year in savings and raise you twenty plus years of service left.

Aqua,
We are in a battle with management here. I will spend whatever I need to during this time to make sure my family is taken care of......this is a small point at this stage in the game.

breeze

 

[apollo]

Did someone say something?

Read my post about your alleged fee and tax free life. Your witness sir.

 

[aquagreen73s]

Aqua,
We are in a battle with management here. I will spend whatever I need to during this time to make sure my family is taken care of......this is a small point at this stage in the game.

breeze

Ditto Breeze. The problem for us in the West that for the past three and a half years we've had to fight like never imagined against not the company, but our own union!

 

[mrbreeze]

Ditto Breeze. The problem for us in the West that for the past three and a half years we've had to fight like never imagined against not the company, but our own union!

I understand....and truely wish it were different. Hopefully, the elections in the spring will be helpful for us all.

breeze

 

[apollo]

Ditto Breeze. The problem for us in the West that for the past three and a half years we've had to fight like never imagined against not the company, but our own union!

Spoken like a true victim that did not know for two years he was being overpaid for training.

Your witness, sir.

 

[aquagreen73s]

I understand....and truely wish it were different. Hopefully, the elections in the spring will be helpful for us all.

breeze

I truly believe we can get this together. A change of leadership is the first step. I'd say we could all benefit from third party legal analysis of our situation. Hire a firm that has no connection to either side and stands to gain nothing beyond what they are tasked to do. There is always a way out, but we need to get the facts for East and West first.

 

[mrbreeze]

I truly believe we can get this together. A change of leadership is the first step. I'd say we could all benefit from third party legal analysis of our situation. Hire a firm that has no connection to either side and stands to gain nothing beyond what they are tasked to do. There is always a way out, but we need to get the facts for East and West first.

Agreed...and kool!

 

[apollo]

I truly believe we can get this together. A change of leadership is the first step. I'd say we could all benefit from third party legal analysis of our situation. Hire a firm that has no connection to either side and stands to gain nothing beyond what they are tasked to do. There is always a way out, but we need to get the facts for East and West first.

Third party legal judges are already deciding what should happen. The declaratory judgment. Remember that. The third party alpa "neutral" parties caused this mess.

Waiting on the fees the west pay tax free and the ground school loss of memory pay you received.

You are trying cherry pick discussions.

 

[aquagreen73s]

Agreed...and kool!

Hey Breeze, what sort of contract items do you consider to be a "must have"?

For me, the basis of this East-West dispute goes all the way back to RJs. I doubt we'd be fighting for the scraps from Parker's table if half of our passengers weren't being flown by outsourced jets. We're dealing with the fallout from the legacy of the past concessions by pilots at all mainlines. It wasn't just ALPA; APA did it too. They got theirs - the money - and all they had to do is agree to outsourcing. Great for the guys punching out ten years ago or more. Brilliant for managements. Devastating for the later generation of pilots.

 

[apollo]

Hey Breeze, what sort of contract items do you consider to be a "must have"?

For me, the basis of this East-West dispute goes all the way back to RJs. I doubt we'd be fighting for the scraps from Parker's table if half of our passengers weren't being flown by outsourced jets. We're dealing with the fallout from the legacy of the past concessions by pilots at all mainlines. It wasn't just ALPA; APA did it too. They got theirs - the money - and all they had to do is agree to outsourcing. Great for the guys punching out ten years ago or more. Brilliant for managements. Devastating for the later generation of pilots.

Another victim claim from what you caused.

"Initially Freedom operated the Bombardier CRJ-700 and CRJ-900 on behalf of America West Airlines."

america west regional airline

 

[apollo]

aqua, I am sorry aqua, I do not believe we have settled the west pilots monthly, tax free deduction discussion, the third party legal need when there is one in place, your lack of awareness for being overpaid in training discussion and the R J jetz that caused the fall of civilization as we know it discussion that you recently started.

Respectfully awaiting your responses in line with your posts.

 

[mrbreeze]

Hey Breeze, what sort of contract items do you consider to be a "must have"?

For me, the basis of this East-West dispute goes all the way back to RJs. I doubt we'd be fighting for the scraps from Parker's table if half of our passengers weren't being flown by outsourced jets. We're dealing with the fallout from the legacy of the past concessions by pilots at all mainlines. It wasn't just ALPA; APA did it too. They got theirs - the money - and all they had to do is agree to outsourcing. Great for the guys punching out ten years ago or more. Brilliant for managements. Devastating for the later generation of pilots.

I agree, however, the RJ's were like evolution....and until managements figure out that RJ's lose money, we are stuck with that.

I am not opposed to fair SLI.....I have 6 yrs left, but do believe that I should be given an opportunity to get back into the left seat before retirement, ahead of someone who has another 10-15 yrs left at this company. After all, we (I) gave up a huge paycut in investing in the continuation of this job......$9.8 billion.

Other than that...I think we all are worth a contract that equates industry standard....maybe even 10% less, and all the beanies....good retirement, good health benefits, and good quality of life, vacation, etc.

Personally, I want this company to succeed, so that is why I condone industry -10%. But, I ABOSLUTELY HATE the idea that management is getting bonuses of 200 % off of our backs.

They are the enemy and are playing this out to the max.