US Pilots Labor Discussion

[sumadarson]

You know, this is headed in a childish, boring direction. Why don't we talk about what's really important instead of garbage dumping and trying to throw mankind under the bus. We, East and West, have an equal share of Bozos, scabs and the like. But 99% of the pilots, EAST AND WEST, are standup people that I would fly with, put my family in their trust, and would have their back when needed. Let's move on folks...... Let's try and get along.....I beg you!

The West legacy needs to be told,

 

[sumadarson]

How's that working out for you guys? Now you've gone nowhere in three years, you're at the very bottom of the barrel in wages, working conditions, you name it, and you've guaranteed there will be no compromise.

Check out the last 20 years

 

[sumadarson]

Making less than a Spirit NB captain. Bringing down the industry one day at a time.

You west pilots. Work 20 plus years for dirt wages, then pontificate.

Check out the america west pilot wages

 

[sumadarson]

Its better for you and the angry baby fo club but not for the guy who is sitting in the left seat with 7 of more years left!! Yeah I am sure he's willing to keep up the buck 24 an hour for the remainder of hos career all for the angry babies.

AWA320

Yes a quote from a pilot that works for america west pilots that ran drugs, flew drunk, crossed picket lines and stated that they will in the future. Quite an example for future pilots.

 

[767jetz]

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why is it Clear and Aqua and a few other west posters all they try to do is convince the EAST that we should accept the NIC and sign onto a new contract.

Why don't you just keep it zipped and let this play out?

Ask nostradamus, oldie, blackswan and others why they try to convince everyone that the Nic is dead. Therein lies your answer.

Why don't you tell them to shut their pie hole and let it play out?

Until the courts decide your fate, there are no new arguments.

 

[767jetz]

The West legacy needs to be told,

If that makes you feel better, have at it. It won't change your lot in life. You are still the lowest paid laughing stock, while most legacy f/o's make more than your A320 captains. How embarrassing for you.

 

[sumadarson]

Ask nostradamus, oldie, blackswan and others why they try to convince everyone that the Nic is dead. Therein lies your answer.

Why don't you tell them to shut their pie hole and let it play out?

Until the courts decide your fate, there are no new arguments.

You were pontificating the whole time while it was working through the court, now that a new playground attendant is here, you want people quiet. As a United ALPA rep on flight pay loss. We voted your ALPA keisters out. To use an expression that they have in upper state New York, mind your own beeswax.

 

[sumadarson]

If that makes you feel better, have at it. It won't change your lot in life. You are still the lowest paid laughing stock, while most legacy f/o's make more than your A320 captains. How embarrassing for you.

Proud to be part of the group that threw out ALPA. Fired them.

Hey you will have to be careful when you kiss new ALPA presidents Leo Moak's behind, he is just as big of an idiot but less fleshy.

 

[N924PS]

...and the only reason the boy from psa backs you is so he can push one of your own out and commute to calif. easier. I guess he will fit right in screw'n everyone

he can.

Wrong again, Mikey me boy.

I have pretty much come to the conclusion that USAPA has ensured that my remaining years will be on LOA93 pay. So that PHX commute will be replaced by an upbid to the A330 and a $36/hr pay raise for the remainder of my career.

You are only been screwing yourself and have been for some time now. At the end of the day, those ardent USAPA supporters will find that all their machinations will have gone for naught and in the long run would have enjoyed higher career earnings by accepting the result of the BINDING ARBITRATION.

When the senior USAir pilots came in to LAX SAN and SFO after the PSA/US merger no PSA pilot was "pushed out" of their seat. No PHX pilot would be pushed out either. A vacancy would have to exist for entry.

The likes of yourself, Nostro, Black Swan, Oldie, et al, at least by the way you present yourselves on this forum, are quite embarrasing to the East pilots. I only hope justice and fairness ultimately are rendered by the courts, however long it takes, and you are once and for all silenced if not humiliated.

Peace out, Dude!

 

[sumadarson]

Wrong again, Mikey me boy.

I have pretty much come to the conclusion that USAPA has ensured that my remaining years will be on LOA93 pay. So that PHX commute will be replaced by an upbid to the A330 and a $36/hr pay raise for the remainder of my career.

You are only been screwing yourself and have been for some time now. At the end of the day, those ardent USAPA supporters will find that all their machinations will have gone for naught and in the long run would have enjoyed higher career earnings by accepting the result of the BINDING ARBITRATION.

When the senior USAir pilots came in to LAX SAN and SFO after the PSA/US merger no PSA pilot was "pushed out" of their seat. No PHX pilot would be pushed out either. A vacancy would have to exist for entry.

The likes of yourself, Nostro, Black Swan, Oldie, et al, at least by the way you present yourselves on this forum, are quite embarrasing to the East pilots. I only hope justice and fairness ultimately are rendered by the courts, however long it takes, and you are once and for all silenced if not humiliated.

Peace out, Dude!

You are a former PSA pilot that got date of hire from Usiarways east pilots even though your dung airline, PSA was about to go out of business. You hedged your bets on placating the west because you thought you could walk in victorious into the new nicolau based base, PHX and get a pat on the back.

You coward JS, you lost, I love it.

Now about your retirement and how Jalmer ripped the east pilots off, I will be right back.

 

[aquagreen73s]

Until the courts decide your fate, there are no new arguments.

Nor will there be a contract.

 

[sumadarson]

Nor will there be a contract.

No news since the meet and greet the loosing attorneys representing the america west pilots.

When is the new spin due, it has been one month?

 

[N924PS]

You are a former PSA pilot that got date of hire from Usiarways east pilots even though your dung airline, PSA was about to go out of business. You hedged your bets on placating the west because you thought you could walk in victorious into the new nicolau based base, PHX and get a pat on the back.

You coward JS, you lost, I love it.

Now about your retirement and how Jalmer ripped the east pilots off, I will be right back.

I haven't lost a thing Nostro, Master of the Cyberlink.

PSA was not about to go out of business.

It's never been about the commute, ever.

Same old Nostro SOS, different day. Co-pilot for life.

 

[sumadarson]

I haven't lost a thing Nostro, Master of the Cyberlink.

PSA was not about to go out of business.

It's never been about the commute, ever.

Same old Nostro SOS, different day. Co-pilot for life.

JS, please explain how former PSA pilot Jalmer Johnson became Mec president of ALPA Usairways pilots. Jalmer became president, got full parity in retirement benefits off the backs of the Usairways east pilots. Then Jalmer used all his sick time earned off the Usairways East pilots, then took a lump sump of a million plus, then went to ALPA National for his pirate efforts. Does your family of girls know what a pig you and your former Jalmer are? I think they should know the truth.

 

[sumadarson]

05-03-2006
Top 10 International ALPA Leaders & Staff (by Salary) Name Title Total Compensation
Duane Woerth President $ 550,729
Jalmer Johnson Geneal Manager $ 380,771[/u]
Jonatha Cohen Chief Counsel, D $ 370,957
Bruce York Director Represe $ 354,472
Spyrido Skiados Director, Commun $ 305,777
Kevin Barnhurst Director, Financ $ 297,681
Paul Hallisay Director Govern $ 293,753
Kenneth Cooper Asst Dir Represe $ 288,835
James Johnson Managing Attorne $ 285,249
William Roberts Asst Dir Represe $ 283,820


Jalmer Johnson's salary? Check the LM-2's..they're Federal disclosures. And ask Jalmer who paid for his Lincoln Navigator with the personalized Virginia tag with ALPA on it...ALPA member dues.


Leadership
Top 10 International ALPA Leaders & Staff (by Salary)
Name Title Total Compensation
John Prater President $ 485,336
Jonathan Cohen Chief Counsel/dir Legal $ 411,192
Jalmer Johnson General Manager $ 411,100
Bruce York Director, Representation $ 383,327
William Roberts Asst Dir, Representation $ 334,812
Ana Mcahron-schulz Dir, Econ&fin Analysis $ 314,323
Jim Johnson Sr Managing Attorney $ 305,946
Jeffrey Small Sr Contr Admin/mec Coord $ 286,565
Keith Hagy Director, E&as $ 286,061
Liz Koby Sr Managing Attorney $ 282,115
[show all officers & salaries]