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Driver thinks they'll stop people from crossing his DOH picket line.
A strike over an illegally proferred seniority list will never happen. They just hope IBT will be a 3rd bite at the Apple. Being bite 1 was was a loser and the USAPA bite two was an epic failure, it stands to reason the cowards at USAPA are looking to hide behind something else now. That will fail too. Federal law has a way of trumping the biggest bullies.
 
320 Driver, standby for the moment of decision for the western pilots. The Kasher decision is going the way of the eastern pilots. You will be
compensated for your 330 flying at 200.00/hr plus. The western pilots hired by Franke Air in it's inception will want that, as will their lowest paid in the industry 757 pilots. There will be a rallying there to give up Lenidas, and all the junior clamoring will be stopped by the senior who want the $$$$ Money talks, the junior (CD, Move2, Nic4, CB53) get walked on. Your leader Cleary will finish his term on a high note, and USAPA will be lauded for accomplishing the pay restoration. Something ALPA would never have tried. ALPA would have demanded a contract to resolve the pay dispute. Cleary did the right thing, against the company and western pilots to go and take on the LOA pay. Be patient. Kasher is quite the author.

1. Nic4 is not that senior, but I would not call in the top 30% on the Nic and AWA lists "junior" either.
2. I have said all along, that I would like to see a LOA93 all out win for usapa. Offered my personal opinion that as an outsider reading the LOA language, that there is no way usapa will win this disingenous arbitration, but crazier things have happened. So, there is nothing I would like more than watching the east being dismantled while the 3 year long remedy phase takes place, and east attrition does not even come close to east downsizing.
3. Cleary is still a scab moron. Running a scab union. Likely to be given his walking papers when he gets tossed from usapa for bankrupting the usapa treasury with legal bills. No longer a union rep, with unon protection, means little scabs who publically accuse the corporation of illegal activity, take out USA today ads, and file frivolous lawsuits against the company, get fired for some minor infraction. Bye bye little man.
4. Those of us that actually do have some seniority around here (both east and West, but particularly east) are growing tired of the antics of the scab union, and their officers and volunteers, (talk about "the junior").

To sum, my question for a moron such as yourself would be, in this "moment of decision for the western pilots", what makes you think the West pilots would settle for DOH and a very few of our near retirement pilots being very junior on the 330, while the vast majority of the West is leapfroged by the usapa scabs, when we can hold the line and get what is rightfully ours, and teach a life lesson to the ant-union usapa faithful, about the consequences of trying to 'f over your co-workers.
 
320 Driver, standby for the moment of decision for the western pilots. The Kasher decision is going the way of the eastern pilots. You will be
compensated for your 330 flying at 200.00/hr plus. The western pilots hired by Franke Air in it's inception will want that, as will their lowest paid in the industry 757 pilots. There will be a rallying there to give up Lenidas, and all the junior clamoring will be stopped by the senior who want the $$$$ Money talks, the junior (CD, Move2, Nic4, CB53) get walked on. Your leader Cleary will finish his term on a high note, and USAPA will be lauded for accomplishing the pay restoration. Something ALPA would never have tried. ALPA would have demanded a contract to resolve the pay dispute. Cleary did the right thing, against the company and western pilots to go and take on the LOA pay. Be patient. Kasher is quite the author.

................and then you woke up and discovered your life still sucks.
 
A strike over an illegally proferred seniority list will never happen. They just hope IBT will be a 3rd bite at the Apple. Being bite 1 was was a loser and the USAPA bite two was an epic failure, it stands to reason the cowards at USAPA are looking to hide behind something else now. That will fail too. Federal law has a way of trumping the biggest bullies.


sorry we are not stupid enough to strike.. EAST strikes and they close the west unprofitable routes and strike breaking WEST crews come EAST and take the flying.
sorry no thanks
 
sorry we are not stupid enough to strike.. EAST strikes and they close the west unprofitable routes and strike breaking WEST crews come EAST and take the flying.
sorry no thanks
On the contrary, you are stupid enough. Look what you did to get an injunction slapped on you. That work action had to be the worst run and most uncoordinated effort of any pilot group. You guys were sending text messages to west pilots and calling them as well. All those text messages, btw, were turned over to the company for use against USAPA.

And you're right, if you ever get released (won't happen) we would walk right over you guys and cover that flying in a heartbeat.
 
If that were true, then you truly are some really weird dude. :blink: :blink: :blink: You make no sense, and are busted 😀
Well then... sounds like you got it all figured out luv! :lol: Your problem is that no one believes your fairytales. I couldn't care less either way. But hey, if that makes you sleep better at night then you can live whatever fantasy turns you on. That's what's so funny! You spend sooooo much time getting torqued up about me, trying sooooooo hard to figure me out, it only motivates me to stick around and watch you come apart at the seams. :lol: :lol: :lol: I'm so flattered to be that important to you!

Besides, I'd rather be weird than stupid. But maybe in your case it's both. 😛
 
sorry we are not stupid enough to strike.. EAST strikes and they close the west unprofitable routes and strike breaking WEST crews come EAST and take the flying.
sorry no thanks
So when that scab A-hole sewer with a lisp came to phx four years ago and smugly stated "we don't need the west" with a flippant snap of the wrist...perhaps he was wrong? :lol: :lol:

Shoving loa93 and the litany of uscaba failures up his backside motivates me like nothing else at work. Looking at the phx data from the injunction hearings....I guess I'm not alone!
 
On the contrary, you are stupid enough. Look what you did to get an injunction slapped on you. That work action had to be the worst run and most uncoordinated effort of any pilot group. You guys were sending text messages to west pilots and calling them as well. All those text messages, btw, were turned over to the company for use against USAPA.

And you're right, if you ever get released (won't happen) we would walk right over you guys and cover that flying in a heartbeat.

One more time proving beyond a shadow of a doubt the low life scumbags hired by the dirtbag outfit AWA. Not surprising as that is the only place that would hire them....

Boeing Driver
 
On the contrary, you are stupid enough. Look what you did to get an injunction slapped on you. That work action had to be the worst run and most uncoordinated effort of any pilot group. You guys were sending text messages to west pilots and calling them as well. All those text messages, btw, were turned over to the company for use against USAPA.

And you're right, if you ever get released (won't happen) we would walk right over you guys and cover that flying in a heartbeat.

This all turns back to the western- never, ever, to be trusted. They crossed in Australia, they cross in their own country. It is their heritage. They cross, period. Never, ever, combine in a contract with them. The scab Move2Clt says it right in your face. "ALL THOSE TEXT MESSAGES, BTW, WERE TURNED OVER TO THE COMPANY......" Read the Nic4Us rant, he too, is a scab. You will NEVER EVER be able to work with these Orenstein trained thieves. What is mine, is theirs, what is yours, is theirs. Remember this.




The following poem by Jack London was written in 1915.

Ode To A Scab

After God had finished the rattlesnake, the toad, and the vampire, He had some awful substance left with which He made a scab. A scab is a two-legged animal with a corkscrew soul, a waterlogged brain, and a combination backbone made of jelly and glue. Where others have hearts, he carries a tumor of rotten principles.

When a scab comes down the street, men turn their backs and angels weep in heaven, and the devil shuts the gates of hell to keep him out. No man has a right to scab as long as there is a pool of water deep enough to drown his body in, or a rope long enough to hang his carcass with. Judas Iscariot was a gentleman compared with a scab. For betraying his Master, he had character enough to hang himself. A scab hasn't.

Esau sold his birthright for a mess of pottage. Judas Iscariot sold his savior for thirty pieces of silver. Benedict Arnold sold his country for a promise of a commission in the British Army. The modern strikebreaker sells his birthright, his country, his wife, his children, and his fellow men for an unfulfilled promise from his employer, trust, or corporation.



"Ah ha! You’re with America West," he cackled gleefully.

Fire bells should have gone off already, but Max and I looked at each other and shrugged our shoulders saying, "Yes. How did you know?"

"It was your accent," he said with the look of a hawk eyeing a road kill.

It was too late. There was no going back now.

"And you’re with the Federation," I winced.

Well, to make a long story shorter, he was and so were all fifty of the rest of them, who filed in behind us in the space of a couple of minutes.

Max, realizing the danger, edged over towards me and lifted his case of beer from my shoulder.

Triage.

The Federale smiled.
 
Well then... sounds like you got it all figured out luv! :lol: Your problem is that no one believes your fairytales. I couldn't care less either way. But hey, if that makes you sleep better at night then you can live whatever fantasy turns you on. That's what's so funny! You spend sooooo much time getting torqued up about me, trying sooooooo hard to figure me out, it only motivates me to stick around and watch you come apart at the seams. :lol: :lol: :lol: I'm so flattered to be that important to you!

Besides, I'd rather be weird than stupid. But maybe in your case it's both. 😛

You are not UAL, look at what your friends say about scabbing. Your are AWA, you would cross too, all for your shiny little car. You are the most despicable.
 
You are not UAL, look at what your friends say about scabbing. Your are AWA, you would cross too, all for your shiny little car. You are the most despicable.
Try as you will 9, we are still laughing in your face! :lol: I can just see you now... churning away. Stewing in your anger. Veins bulging in your head trying to figure it all out. I am UAL; I'm not UAL; I'm furloughed UAL; Now I'm back to not being UAL. Seriously, do you have some form of schizophrenia? Pick a story and stick to you it. :lol: Better yet, stop obsessing over me. Your jealousy is really disturbing. You seem to covet everything about me... my job, my car, my life... And you call ME weird! :blink: I've got a kettle you should meet.
 
On the contrary, you are stupid enough. Look what you did to get an injunction slapped on you. That work action had to be the worst run and most uncoordinated effort of any pilot group. You guys were sending text messages to west pilots and calling them as well. All those text messages, btw, were turned over to the company for use against USAPA.

And you're right, if you ever get released (won't happen) we would walk right over you guys and cover that flying in a heartbeat.
Actually those text were sent from AOL, derived from data stolen from the company, the next RICO is another reality day's away!
 
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