US Pilots Labor Discussion

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Well then... sounds like you got it all figured out luv! Your problem is that no one believes your fairytales. I couldn't care less either way. But hey, if that makes you sleep better at night then you can live whatever fantasy turns you on. That's what's so funny! You spend sooooo much time getting torqued up about me, trying sooooooo hard to figure me out, it only motivates me to stick around and watch you come apart at the seams. I'm so flattered to be that important to you!

Besides, I'd rather be weird than stupid. But maybe in your case it's both. 😛

When the shoe fit's!

 

[mikey60]

On the contrary, you are stupid enough. Look what you did to get an injunction slapped on you. That work action had to be the worst run and most uncoordinated effort of any pilot group. You guys were sending text messages to west pilots and calling them as well. All those text messages, btw, were turned over to the company for use against USAPA.

And you're right, if you ever get released (won't happen) we would walk right over you guys and cover that flying in a heartbeat.

Talk is cheep, the only thing cheeper is a west pilot trying to get to CLT.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

So when that scab A-hole sewer with a lisp came to phx four years ago and smugly stated "we don't need the west" with a flippant snap of the wrist...perhaps he was wrong?

Shoving loa93 and the litany of uscaba failures up his backside motivates me like nothing else at work. Looking at the phx data from the injunction hearings....I guess I'm not alone!

Misery loves company you know!

 

[luvthe9]

Try as you will 9, we are still laughing in your face! I can just see you now... churning away. Stewing in your anger. Veins bulging in your head trying to figure it all out. I am UAL; I'm not UAL; I'm furloughed UAL; Now I'm back to not being UAL. Seriously, do you have some form of schizophrenia? Pick a story and stick to you it. Better yet, stop obsessing over me. Your jealousy is really disturbing. You seem to covet everything about me... my job, my car, my life... And you call ME weird! :blink: I've got a kettle you should meet.

Get a grip Jetzz! It isn't me on a UAL board going wack, it is you, supposedly UAL, on the USAir board going crazy. Look in the mirror, look on the stupid webboard, it is YOU who is here! :blink: :blink: :blink: 2000 times! That is damn hilarious, unless it is you!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Why the IBT? What are they going to do for this group that usapa can't or won't?

IBT is a "national" union with conflicts of interests. That is what you all told us you were trying to get away from or was that just lies designed to cover the real reason you left ALPA. To get out of the Nicolau.

How does a union that represents truck drivers represent pilots under the RLA and not have a conflict?

What is the IBT position on arbitration? Ask the Polar/Atlas guys or the Republic guys. Is IBT going to give us a different answer?

So why the teamsters? Is usapa not the union you all had hoped for just 3.5 years after replacing your last union? What happens if IBT can't do what you want? Just keep changing hoping for something to change. The only change will happen when enough of you old east guys leave and the attitude changes. Or a court shoves a couple rulings up your backsides.

What's hope got to do with it? So the EAST guys have to leave for what attitude to change? WE have tons of attrition you want, new hires on the EAST will advance faster without the WEST, the court cannot dictate your vote,or interfere with internal union affairs! The NIC will never be an option, soon you will see that! Most already do!

 

[nycbusdriver]

Why the IBT? What are they going to do for this group that usapa can't or won't?

Someone pointed out to me today, one key advantage of going with the IBT is that it would fend off any attempt by ALPA to get back on to the property. The IBT and ALPA, along with the AFL-CIO, has a "hands off" policy regarding raiding each other's constituencies.

Keeping ALPA off the property: That alone is worth the price of admission.

 

[Black Swan]

Try as you will 9, we are still laughing in your face! I can just see you now... churning away. Stewing in your anger. Veins bulging in your head trying to figure it all out. I am UAL; I'm not UAL; I'm furloughed UAL; Now I'm back to not being UAL. Seriously, do you have some form of schizophrenia? Pick a story and stick to you it. Better yet, stop obsessing over me. Your jealousy is really disturbing. You seem to covet everything about me... my job, my car, my life... And you call ME weird! :blink: I've got a kettle you should meet.

Whoa Jetzz, you are really losing it! What is it now? 2000 visits and rants over a jumpseat issue or something? After reading the story on the BMW forum someone e mailed me of you driving around the truck with your pregnant wife in the grass, you have really lost it! 😱

 

[Claxon]

On the contrary, you are stupid enough. Look what you did to get an injunction slapped on you. That work action had to be the worst run and most uncoordinated effort of any pilot group. You guys were sending text messages to west pilots and calling them as well. All those text messages, btw, were turned over to the company for use against USAPA.

And you're right, if you ever get released (won't happen) we would walk right over you guys and cover that flying in a heartbeat.

Move2Clt, we are not surprised at all that you would walk over "you guys" It is what you do!

For any corrections/additions/updates PLEASE email Scablist@hotmail.com!**

HERE IS A SUMMARY OF THE NUMBER OF SCABS FROM EACH AIRLINE:

Air North Summary AirNorth Both Scabs Listed
Australian Summary AFAP 89 85 America West & Braniff Scabs
Century Summary Century 1 Scab Identified Thus Far

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Now 767JETZ we all know UAL has furlough capability at years end, as CAL NEWHIRES, now does that include a pay cut plus brought to arbitration attention, you know he "really knows" , but hey "YOU TOLD US, INDUSTRY STANDARD CONTRACT YEARS END" were standing by, we all know you luv calling BS!

 

[Move2CLT]

Move2Clt, we are not surprised at all that you would walk over "you guys" It is what you do!

For any corrections/additions/updates PLEASE email Scablist@hotmail.com!**

HERE IS A SUMMARY OF THE NUMBER OF SCABS FROM EACH AIRLINE:

Air North Summary AirNorth Both Scabs Listed
Australian Summary AFAP 89 85 America West & Braniff Scabs
Century Summary Century 1 Scab Identified Thus Far

You've got two working for your union right now. Doesn't seems to bother you.

 

[Move2CLT]

Talk is cheep, the only thing cheeper is a west pilot trying to get to CLT.

Ya, that made perfect sense. :huh:

 

[Move2CLT]

Actually those text were sent from AOL, derived from data stolen from the company, the next RICO is another reality day's away!

 

[doh nogo]

It all makes sense.

Perhaps in your pea-sized brain.

What others see is you... one seriously obsessed, bitter, angry fo taking out his frustrations on anyone and everyone who doesn't conform to his view, or questions his attempted theft.

What others see is that you chase 767jetz around the internet like a annoying lap dog. He owns you, and your cronies MM, Mikey, and BlackSwan are all making fools of themselves. You mean to tell me you actually research others trying to read up on their personal lives? That's just plain scarey! You're holding on WAY too tight.

Honestly, who cares what his motivation is? Who cares if he's furloughed? Who cares if he works for UAL or AWA? Who cares what kind of car he drives or in what other activities he does or doesn't partake? Doesn't change the fact that he has your number, is spot on with most of his assessment, has a pretty accurate track record, and all you have is smoke to blow out your a$$. All I see is a bunch of angry idiots bringing up the subject over and over again. Not Jetz.

Funny how obvious it is, when you run out of ammunition you always resort to throwing crap against a wall hoping something will stick. It's not working. You've lost. Let it go already. It's embarrassing!

 

[Move2CLT]

One more time proving beyond a shadow of a doubt the low life scumbags hired by the dirtbag outfit AWA. Not surprising as that is the only place that would hire them....

Boeing Driver

This coming from an easties who doesn't know the meaning of integrity, final, or binding.

All you do is flap your lips and crap comes out.

And as an FYI, we never killed any passengers. We NEVER had to stand down our flt ops because of the amount of accidents we were having.

I guess US Air hired the incompetent ones that knew how to fly good airplanes into the ground, taxi into the dirt, and drag tails.

Not surprising at all.

 

[767jetz]

Now 767JETZ we all know UAL has furlough capability at years end, as CAL NEWHIRES, now does that include a pay cut plus brought to arbitration attention, you know he "really knows" , but hey "YOU TOLD US, INDUSTRY STANDARD CONTRACT YEARS END" were standing by, we all know you luv calling BS!

A swing and a miss.

Sorry to disappoint you, but any furloughed UA pilot that gets hired at CO gets paid at his current UAL pay rate by seat, equipment, AND YOS. The only thing that changes is the uniform and the work rules.

As for your last garbled sentence, as always you are a liar. I said it would be industry LEADING, it would be LONG before USAPA resolves the SLI or the east gets off loa 93, and most likely there would be a contract or a strike before we see any furloughs. I can't predict furloughs, but I do know for fact that UA's flying for 2012 is flat with slightly less domestic and more international. So your furlough theory is probably off. I also know that December bids in JFK on the UA side include EWR Brussels, UA is re-training JFK 767 for international and we'll be bidding international rules starting December, and spring is bringing several other international destinations to my fleet that will also open up bids for more pilots into my domicile. Doesn't exactly sound like the actions of a company getting ready to furlough now, does it?

But you've been wrong before, so you're no stranger to that! You guys crack me up. No interest in what I have to say, yet you sure do spend alot of energy stalking me in cyber space! You keep bringing up me and UAL yet you claim not to care. Which is it? LMFAO! I've obviously got you and your buddies wound up the last few days. All of you should take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard. That blood pressure can't be good for your medical prospects!