US Pilots Labor Discussion

[cynic]

Oh ye of little comprehension but big fantasies...

The 9th said:







So, the 9th said that USAPA's proposed seniority list "was not nearly as favorable to West Pilots as the Nicolau Award" and that "effectuation of USAPA's proposal" would injure the West Pilots. Then they said "USAPA's final proposal may yet" - not the current USAPA proposal but one that USAPA may yet propose. Followed by the part that easties love to skip: "that does not work the disadvantages Plaintiffs fear" - i.e. it's not USAPA's current proposal since they already said that the current USAPA proposal is "not nearly as favorable" to the westies and presents an "accompanying injury."

So USAPA is in a corner - they have yet to make a seniority proposal that doesn't harm the westies. If USAPA ever does make a proposal that is as "favorable to West pilots as the Nicolau", then and only then will USAPA escape a DFR.

That is exactly what Silver was referring to when she said "No question the Court embraced the issue that there was harm to the West Pilots."

Jim

If they edit it down enough and take comments completely out of context, they can justify just about any point of view that they want. It doesn't make them right, it just makes them feel better about their delusions.

 

[CV580ETOPS]

Something you will never see or have in your lifetime, that is what it is. So sorry kids.

Much like you in your attempts to achieve an industry standard hourly rate.

CV

 

[luvthe9]

Much like you in your attempts to achieve an industry standard hourly rate.

CV

Oh, I just can't wait to hear all the whining from you little westies. Music to my ears. 😀

 

[nevergiveup]

If they edit it down enough and take comments completely out of context, they can justify just about any point of view that they want. It doesn't make them right, it just makes them feel better about their delusions.

But if NIC is used the senior AWA pilots are stapled below 500 numbers and would be therefore harmed.

 

[luvn737s]

Using the Sept 25 2007 date of merged certificates, on Sept 22nd the Civil War between AWA and US pilots has exceeded the length of the US civil war 1861-1865.

 

[mikey60]

Do you think IBT wants to inherit litigation with the prospect of significant damages awarded? I think Hoffa will tell Cleary to clean up his own mess first.

Luvn, Would the west vote for the IBT?

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

But if NIC is used the senior AWA pilots are stapled below 500 numbers and would be therefore harmed.

Did not that only occur with an age 60 mandatory retirement?

 

[cactusboy53]

Luvn, Would the west vote for the IBT?

What? You mean if USAPA had PI$$ED away tens of millions of dollars in a paper chase for DOH, and we needed a new CBA simply because USAPA went "out of business"?

Sure. IBT solved the seniority problem between Atlas & Polar: ALL ARBITRATIONS ARE FINAL AND BINDING. PERIOD.

Is this your "Plan B"??? So, where are those shinny new IBT voter cards?? :blink: :blink: :blink:

 

[mikey60]

What? You mean if USAPA had PI$$ED away tens of millions of dollars in a paper chase for DOH, and we needed a new CBA simply because USAPA went "out of business"?

Sure. IBT solved the seniority problem between Atlas & Polar: ALL ARBITRATIONS ARE FINAL AND BINDING. PERIOD.

Is this your "Plan B"??? So, where are those shinny new IBT voter cards?? :blink: :blink: :blink:

Go outside and play in the sandbox boy I had a question for Luvn.

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

Go outside and play in the sandbox boy I had a question for Luvn.

Is he right?

 

[SparrowHawk]

Go outside and play in the sandbox boy I had a question for Luvn.

Awww Did Kitty wake up on the wrong side of his litter box?

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[Claxon]

Oh, I just can't wait to hear all the whining from you little westies. Music to my ears. 😀

Just a couple more days, and the Franke Air western disciples will once again resume their spot as the lowest paid in the industry. This, is going to be classic. The Franke Air LOA 93 Dance Party is Over, Boom Boom, out go the lights! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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[N924PS]

Did not that only occur with an age 60 mandatory retirement?

Asking this question affirms the fact that you have never even read the Nicolau Award.

 

[BoeingBoy]

But if NIC is used the senior AWA pilots are stapled below 500 numbers and would be therefore harmed.

Wrong - the "harm" the 9th was talking about was in relation to the Nic. The courts almost never overturn an arbitrator's award without fraud, conflict of interest, etc, to support overturning it - lacking that the award is presumed to be fair. That was the tack the east MEC was taking with the suit against the west MEC, but that ended with USAPA and it's now too late to even attempt to prove fraud, etc now.

Jim

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

Could AA stonewall M-B by throwing money at it?