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Go outside and play in the sandbox boy I had a question for Luvn.

Whatever "gramps". Can I get you a prune latte while I'm getting a coffee? We're ready to sign those IBT cards. Send me over a stack! 😀 BTW, I'd bet you that prune latte that I was born in the same decade as you (at least).
 
Unlike you, he has done nothing wrong and supports the pilots not only himself. You actually ARE being investigated.
Yeah, but no. Sorry, you're still not as smart as you think you are.

No, Mr. King was the one who barred the help of a pilot volunteer/CPA and turned the union office into a bunker. His R-rated e-mails were published and when confronted with his own words became irate. What was he trying to cover up?

Am I the only one who remembers how this went down?
 
Apollo? banished? I don't think so. I am sure he will be back. Crow about how you don't work at UAL? Now we know. Furloughed here and UAL, not a good spot to be in. Makes all the posts very understandable now. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Gee luvthe9, where is your hero apollo? 10 days and counting. He was here daily to vomit on the forum with dozens of attacks every day. Are you telling us he just decided to take a vacation? :lol:

Looks like Jetz was right again. Don't you ever get tired of being wrong? Can't wait for Kasher to crush you! Your meltdown will be epic. The popcorn is on standby.
 
Gee luvthe9, where is your hero apollo? 10 days and counting. He was here daily to vomit on the forum with dozens of attacks every day. Are you telling us he just decided to take a vacation? :lol:

Looks like Jetz was right again. Don't you ever get tired of being wrong? Can't wait for Kasher to crush you! Your meltdown will be epic. The popcorn is on standby.

Jetzz should know, he routinely got us thrown off in the past when he cried to the moderators. After the LOA 93 win, we will have one last love fest, then all the East guys are going to leave and let you have the board if they did actually throw Apollo off. This will be our response, and the advertisement money will dry up. We, both sides, keep this the most active board and ad money alive. If the mods and Jetzz want to kill it, then so be it. 😱 They can live with the fact the posts will drop dramatically. Apollo did nothing worse than Move2 and he gets away with anything. Enjoy the banter for a little longer, we are ready to ALL pull the plug.
 
The senior western are seeing the light of the angry junior new hires and their desires to stop the process. The western disciples are missing massive upward movement, and this is the payback for the greed they exhibit. When the new pay rates are established, the anger of the senior western will break the back of the youth western insurgency. It is just a matter of days. This is just the tip of the movement, medical issues will play a larger part. Hundreds of senior eastern pilots will be leaving, creating a massive eastern move up and hiring.

The great thing about PBS is I am not all that senior, but turned another weeks vacation into 17 days off in a row, but alas, I had to return to work this week. 4th vacation this year, and my last week I used in December for the holiday season, but I doubt I can turn that into as much time off, but I digress.


Regarding your "new pay rates".....exactly what rates are you refering?? The LOA93 rates that clearyly show scales for 2011....or in other words 2 full years past when the scab union said they expired??? or do you have some other pay rate in mind like the one Kirby laughed in east faces about in the most recent CLT crewnews session???

View attachment loa93payrates.pdf

Ya, know I never really looked that close to those rates, but the next time you call the West 757 pilots, the lowest paid 757 pilots in the industry, I am going to point out that the West pilot making $2/hr less than their east counterpart gets 31 days vacation, better health insurance, better LTD, better work rules, paid uniform, paid training, paid deadhead etc..etc...etc...

That crewnews was very eyeopening.

Kirby has a better handle on what a bunch of idiots usapa is than Parker. But, I already knew that, Kirby told me years ago there was no way usapa will deliver a contract. But, that was when Bradford was president, and usapa was just an about to be loser organization. Now, usapa is a full on asylum, and the inmates are actually trying to become inmates!!

Further, Kirby said in plain english, "there is no working relationship with usapa". He goes a bit further and explains why. usapa always "overreaches", is the exact word he used. Gee, no kidding. The east has not only failed to grasp their position since day one, they have always thought they had the leverage. What a complete bunch of morons.

Also, for Sparrowhawk, Kirby explains in his own words what happened on the Manchester flight and denies the allegations.

The massive upward movement to which you refer is also laughable, when very much of that movement is already junior to me.. junior. You see, the question becomes, why would I settle for being junior to scabs like yourself, in exchange for "massive upward movement", when I am already senior to to scabs such as yourself, and do not need your upward movement?? Ponder that awhile you complete idiot. Then consider that holds true for about 80% of the West list.

To sum, good luck with that LOA93 thingy....win, lose, draw,,,,the West is laughing at you morons. Oh, and Kirby and Co. shake their heads while they laugh!!
 
Jetzz should know, he routinely got us thrown off in the past when he cried to the moderators. After the LOA 93 win, we will have one last love fest, then all the East guys are going to leave and let you have the board if they did actually throw Apollo off. This will be our response, and the advertisement money will dry up. We, both sides, keep this the most active board and ad money alive. If the mods and Jetzz want to kill it, then so be it. 😱 They can live with the fact the posts will drop dramatically. Apollo did nothing worse than Move2 and he gets away with anything. Enjoy the banter for a little longer, we are ready to ALL pull the plug.

Oh,,boy,,look what we have here,,,another easthole who thinks he has the upper hand and is in a controlling position.

Why am I not surprised?
 
Jetzz should know, he routinely got us thrown off in the past when he cried to the moderators.

Once again someone else is to blame for the bad behavior of others? The person who speaks up is the demon, not the troublemakers being stood up to?

This is the problem that has plagued our union for decades. When our MEC ran amok, those who spoke up were ostracized by the mob. When USAPA's leaders are questioned (even by the founders) they are attacked. When a person on this forum has an opposing opinion they are crucified.

After the LOA 93 win, we will have one last love fest, then all the East guys are going to leave and let you have the board if they did actually throw Apollo off. This will be our response,

Speak for yourself. I'm respectfully sick and tired of people here claiming to speak the voice of others. Knock it off, please.

If the mods and Jetzz want to kill it, then so be it.

I seriously doubt the administrators of this site care so much about the feelings of any one person. Kevin Laufer is one of us, remember? Anyone who gets banned probably broke the rules and deserves the consequences.

Apollo did nothing worse than Move2 and he gets away with anything.
I disagree. There are pot stirrers on both sides. Some are far worse than others and you and I both know it. I hate to admit it, but the truly bad behavior seems to be coming more from our side these days, just like those that have hijacked our union. Come on. Scabs, drug runners, posting personal information about others, personal attacks. These are professional pilots that you and I fly with. I'm becoming disgusted with what I'm witnessing here and within our union. Pilots turning against pilots. Heck, I bet I'll be the next target for speaking up.

Anyway, just one old man's opinion.
 
.... After the LOA 93 win, we will have one last love fest, ...... Enjoy the banter for a little longer, we are ready to ALL pull the plug.

Sure you'll pull the plug. Here's what happens after you win LOA93:
  1. Mr. Parker does ANYTHING he can to avoid paying you (because Final is not Final & Binding is not Binding if one party perceives the arbitration as unfair).
  2. Mr. Parker will shift as much flying to PHX as legally possible within the confines of the transition agreement.
  3. Mr. Parker will out spend and out litigate USAPA into oblivion.
  4. We will actually see all of the growth in PHX, and the east bases will remain at fleet minimums.

The very best of luck to you Luv-r. You deserve everything that you will get, really.
 
Jetzz should know, he routinely got us thrown off in the past when he cried to the moderators. After the LOA 93 win, we will have one last love fest, then all the East guys are going to leave and let you have the board if they did actually throw Apollo off. This will be our response, and the advertisement money will dry up. We, both sides, keep this the most active board and ad money alive. If the mods and Jetzz want to kill it, then so be it. 😱 They can live with the fact the posts will drop dramatically. Apollo did nothing worse than Move2 and he gets away with anything. Enjoy the banter for a little longer, we are ready to ALL pull the plug.
Freudian Slip? What's with the US. Almost sounds like an admission that one of the personalities previously banned was one of your own alter egos?

Interesting that you call others obsessed, when its you who places so much power in the hands of one person. So 767jetz has control over the mods now? Or maybe those that deserve to get booted actually got themselves booted.

As for your theory of sinking this forum, you've overlooked one important detail. Notice the ratings lately. Guys like Jetz and Move2CLT get double digit pluses while guys like you get some major red marks. Looks like there are far more west supporters than east. Which means you leaving will have little effect on traffic.
 
then all the East guys are going to leave and let you have the board if they did actually throw Apollo off.

We should only be so lucky!

They can live with the fact the posts will drop dramatically.

we are ready to ALL pull the plug.

Once again you are giving yourself far more importance than reality will support. Not much more to say that others haven't already covered.


As for your theory of sinking this forum, you've overlooked one important detail. Notice the ratings lately. Guys like Jetz and Move2CLT get double digit pluses while guys like you get some major red marks. Looks like there are far more west supporters than east. Which means you leaving will have little effect on traffic.

It might even HELP traffic since there are probably many long time lurkers who hesitate to engage in any discussions for fear of the lynch mob.
 
Once again someone else is to blame for the bad behavior of others? The person who speaks up is the demon, not the troublemakers being stood up to?

This is the problem that has plagued our union for decades. When our MEC ran amok, those who spoke up were ostracized by the mob. When USAPA's leaders are questioned (even by the founders) they are attacked. When a person on this forum has an opposing opinion they are crucified.



Speak for yourself. I'm respectfully sick and tired of people here claiming to speak the voice of others. Knock it off, please.



I seriously doubt the administrators of this site care so much about the feelings of any one person. Kevin Laufer is one of us, remember? Anyone who gets banned probably broke the rules and deserves the consequences.


I disagree. There are pot stirrers on both sides. Some are far worse than others and you and I both know it. I hate to admit it, but the truly bad behavior seems to be coming more from our side these days, just like those that have hijacked our union. Come on. Scabs, drug runners, posting personal information about others, personal attacks. These are professional pilots that you and I fly with. I'm becoming disgusted with what I'm witnessing here and within our union. Pilots turning against pilots. Heck, I bet I'll be the next target for speaking up.

Anyway, just one old man's opinion.

Spot on.
 
Why the NICWON'TFLY on the EAST, AGE 60+ breakdown for DEC11, a330 capt- 78 ,7Icapt-93,, abcapt-169, 737cap-70 a330f/o-42, 7If/o-27, rest of listE9 capt, fo etc omitted! MM! NAC update USAPA website!

Is this guy for real? Does anyone know what this all means? Do I need to drop some acid and listen to a Beatle's record backward in order to understand him?
 
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