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Pi brat said:
That is even more ignorant than you usual posts. And I asked clear. You opinion doesn't mean anything to me.
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The intern is angry. Offer AA lifetime 777 fence for all their pilots, including furloughed, plus a 20 yr fence on 767 flying. The western division will not be happy, but you will easily get a contract with DOH with AA.
 
Claxon said:
The intern is angry. Offer AA lifetime 777 fence for all their pilots, including furloughed, plus a 20 yr fence on 767 flying. The western division will not be happy, but you will easily get a contract with DOH with AA.
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Makes sense Claxon. 🙂
 
No Land Green said:
What a shock, with your EGO I'm amazed that you are not. All these years I've heard "you can't fix stupid". I guess we are just doomed then.
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And you're correct. Normal, sane, logical, and intelligent can't fix stupid. You have to your own peers and work together.

And you've been doomed for over 5 years now.
 
So far there have been well over 100 nominations for various leadership positions. Is there a list of those who have accepted?
I know from another forum who is running from PHX, but aside from Gary Hummel, who is running in the east? Andy Reitz (sorry about the spelling) was running but dropped out.

I don't even know if Cleary is running.

Hummel is the only one who has put out a campaign letter and video that I have seen.

Doesn't balloting begin next week?
 
Move2CLT said:
And you're correct. Normal, sane, logical, and intelligent can't fix stupid. You have to your own peers and work together.

And you've been doomed for over 5 years now.
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Are you describing yourself above? Can't "walk the walk" and be the USAPA President?

There is no doom on the East, it's more like the stagnant doom you are living. Maybe you should change your name to "exiled in PHX"........
 
Pi brat said:
Why does that bother you guys so much?
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It is just another example of east pilots unable or unwilling to except the reality of the situation. So what you were a captain. Today's reality you are an F/O. (I am not talking about you specifically) Take off the 4th stripe and accept your position there is no shame in being a first officer but I think you guys think there is. I had a conversation with an east F/O one time and he did not care about anything except being a captain. Pay benefits nothing just the fourth stripe and the left seat. strange culture you guys got on the east. Notice how many poster talk about separate ops and attrition so they can get to the left seat? Damn four stripes and commuter wages and rules if that is all you want from life that chair must be pretty important. When we downgraded captain every one of them took off the stripe. Also I understand the reason for the jacket. It cost money to change and the company is cheap. But when we changed uniforms you guys were F/O's and should have ordered F/O jacket. To me looking down at that 4th stripe while a first officer would just remind me everyday. No wonder there are so many angry F/O's on the east. Daily reminder of what you used to have instead of what the reality is today.

Accept that you are an F/O's wear the proper number of stripes and live in the here and now not the past.

We had a VP ops that came from the outside. Our contract said that you had to be on the seniority list to that job. So he was put on the list but was real junior and not a captain. But he would sign has memos Captain. A lot of us gave him a hard time and he said well I used to be a captain at my other airline. So what we all where but at this airline you are an F/O. Besides he was a VP sign it VP not Captain.
 
No Land Green said:
Are you describing yourself above? Can't "walk the walk" and be the USAPA President?

There is no doom on the East, it's more like the stagnant doom you are living. Maybe you should change your name to "exiled in PHX"........
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If you promise to vote for me, I'll consider it.

And my stagnant doom doesn't include LOA93.
 
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