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Not sweating it? LMAO!

You guys were jumping up and down how you were going to win LOA93. Breeze is throwing a stone with his MDA game changer dream.

You guys talk about it at the bar on your RONs and I laugh listening to your wishful thinking.

Go to the cactuspilot forum and look back at all the "just you wait" posts from the easties that post there.

And seeing you guys in PHL and CLT with your scowls and your perpetual looking at my shoes walk proves just how much all this is eating away at you.

And I couldn't be more entertained.

Wow, I don't know where you have been hanging out. I have never heard it come up at a bar on a RON. there are much better things to discuss in such a situation. I think you have been on these boards too long and it has screwed you up a bit.

I confess I did think about it a bit today about noon when the ballot showed up in the mail. I promply voted then went on with my day not giving it a second thought till I passed by here this evening.

I bet you still use the line "Hey I am an airline pilot" when you meet women don't you? I will vote the way I see it and keep up on whats going on. But you will be waiting a long long time if you expect to see me "upset" or "looking at my shoes" while walking thru the airport.

I really do think you might need to see a professional about your issues. This whole thing seems to be eating you up.

Have a good evening! 🙂
 
Wow, I don't know where you have been hanging out. I have never heard it come up at a bar on a RON. there are much better things to discuss in such a situation. I think you have been on these boards too long and it has screwed you up a bit.

I confess I did think about it a bit today about noon when the ballot showed up in the mail. I promply voted then went on with my day not giving it a second thought till I passed by here this evening.

I bet you still use the line "Hey I am an airline pilot" when you meet women don't you? I will vote the way I see it and keep up on whats going on. But you will be waiting a long long time if you expect to see me "upset" or "looking at my shoes" while walking thru the airport.

I really do think you might need to see a professional about your issues. This whole thing seems to be eating you up.

Have a good evening! 🙂

Not eating me up at all boo boo. Just cracking me up.

Look it how insane it's made MM.

Watching you guys play in your filth is all the therapy I need. Laughter after all, is the best medicine.
 
Laughter after all, is the best medicine.

Yes I agree. I wonder though why when i pass through PHX and say hello to all the fellow Usairways pilots I see out there that they always look away and stare at their shoes?

We invited the west crew that rode the crew van with us to go out and eat. The F/A's were all for it but the pilots looked like cornered rats. Whats that all about? Not going to get much solidarity going that way. A few months back I was pass riding and on west metal, F/A's were very nice and we had a good chat about this and that. I thanked the F/O that was standing at the door on the way off the airplane for the ride and when he saw my non colorful standard USAirways tie I thought the guy was going to pass out. Guess he didn't know he was hauling a dirty eastie on his flight. I would have thought one of the 3 f/a's would have mentioned it to them seeing as how we were chatting about kids and vacation spots etc.

That was not you was it? If so you really need to lighten up a bit. Its only a job after all.
 
They're having to spend their own time and money to keep USAPA from stealing their jobs.

What do you expect?
 
The courts are going to provide the solution to the SLI.

As for getting a contract, that's a different matter.

I've never meet a West crew that wasn't friendly, after I reached out first.
 
Don't worry breeze, you're right and everyone else is wrong.

LMAO!

MEC 07-05-05 (MDA Longevity)

This past week, the System Board of Adjustment finalized its Award regarding the MDA Pay Longevity Arbitration. As most of you are aware, this case was a result of the Company's violation of the Collective Bargaining Agreement by refusing to credit pilots with pay and longevity for the time they spent flying for MidAtlantic Airlines (MDA).

It was the Union's position that when the Company exercised its contractually negotiated right to operate MDA as a division or department of US Airways, it obligated itself to crediting the MDA pilots with pay and longevity for the time they flew at MDA. It was the position of the Company that MDA was intended to be a separate entity from the Company, and therefore, the corporate form of MDA was not relevant in the arbitration proceedings. Further, it was the Company's position that the pilots that flew for MDA were on furlough, and therefore, notwithstanding MDA's corporate structure, the pilots that flew for MDA should not receive credit for that time.

At arbitration the Union presented what it believed to be the clear and unambiguous language of the parties' Collective Bargaining Agreement and proffered compelling evidence in support of its position, which included testimony from the Union's chief negotiator. Unfortunately, the Union did not prevail at the arbitration and the Arbitrator ruled that the Company did not violate, misinterpret or misapply the terms of the Collective Bargaining Agreement in failing to credit pilots with additional longevity and pay for their time spent flying at MDA.

The Arbitrator was not persuaded by the Union's chief negotiator, nor was he persuaded by the compelling and voluminous evidence that was presented by fellow MDA pilots. The Union requested two Executive Sessions prior to the finalization of the Award. During the Executive Sessions, Union participants traveled to PHX and met with Company representatives and the Arbitrator to discuss the egregious nature of the Award.

After approximately six hours of Executive Sessions, the Arbitrator was still not amenable to the Union's position, and while he made minor changes to the final Award, such changes were minor, technical alterations that did not impact the legal significance of his decision.

The Grievance Committee and all of the Union participants are obviously very disappointed with this outcome. In addition, the Grievance Committee remains greatly concerned with regard to some of the arbitrator's procedural errors and their prejudicial effect on the Union's presentation of its case. The Grievance Committee is mindful of the stringent standard exacted against a party seeking judicial review of an arbitrator's award but, given the particularly egregious nature of some of the Arbitrator's procedural rulings in this particular case, we are continuing to explore the possibility of seeking to appeal this Award in federal court.

The Grievance Committee and Legal will discuss this issue with the BPR and seek direction concerning an appeal.


This is old news, pre-lawsuit, and meaningless gibberish.
breeze
 
I love watching you guys get your hopes up only to see them crushed at every turn.

Best entertainment out there.

Anything to get your pucker factor up, eh Move?

You should be worried....in a couple of months we will add 9% to our wages, plus most of us will be drawing PBGC money.....that puts us up to about $165/hr for a 320 Cpt. Why would we not want seperate ops or vote to appeal whatever Silver decides.

Keep in mind, junior, out of all this BS that we have been through, we are due a win, and the 3% annual raise is more secure, legally, than anything that has come up yet.

Yes, you should be concerned.

breeze
 
Of course it is breeze. Keep chasing that tail. It makes me laugh.

When I was in my 20's, a lot of times when we would grocery shop there was a guy in the store who was just hanging out, pretending to shop. (obvious mental problem) He was always laughing and reading labels and such, then snickering away. A very friendly guy, who we nicknamed "Happy".

Move, you remind me of him....laughing without a lick of sense. (and you want to be VP of USAPA)

breeze
 
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