US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Res Judicata]

Whatever fantasy you choose to entertain yourself with Move... knock yourself out. I've shown you in the contracts where I was right and you just can't handle it.... LOL!!!!!

Driver...

Again, you've had four years to get parity. You even had total control over your custom union that cared ONLY for your interest. Where is it? Where's the parity? Four years, a billion dollars lost chasing your DOH ghoast and yet STILL with every resource at your finger tips you don't have Parity....6.5 years later.

You just voted for 3more years of no change as well. I'd say the Parity problem Sits solidly on your side of the equation. I'm sure you just blame ALPA but since when have any of you taken personal responsibility for a single thing? Never.

It's YOUR sandbox, you own ALL the toys as well....

WHERE IS YOUR PARITY?

 

[A320 Driver]

Again, you've had four years to get parity. You even had total control over your custom union that cared ONLY for your interest. Where is it? Where's the parity? Four years, a billion dollars lost chasing your DOH ghoast and yet STILL with every resource at your finger tips you don't have Parity....6.5 years later.

You just voted for 3more years of no change as well. I'd say the Parity problem Sits solidly on your side of the equation. I'm sure you just blame ALPA but since when have any of you taken personal responsibility for a single thing? Never.

It's YOUR sandbox, you own ALL the toys as well....

WHERE IS YOUR PARITY?

I voted for Eric as did several of my friends. He didn't even get the full support of the West pilots. I suppose apathy abides everywhere. As for parity, it died when our MECs fell out of love with each other.

Driver...

 

[luvn737s]

It's YOUR sandbox, you own ALL the toys as well....

WHERE IS YOUR PARITY?

A judge in NC locked them up and put USAPA in a permanent timeout, so the threw a tantrum by electing Hummel and Bradford. Some kind of reverse psychology win by losing sort of thing. They can explain it to you in Charlotte.

 

[luvn737s]

Why do you insert "MM"! In your sentences?

Go buy a bag of Peanut M&Ms. Each one is an enlarged model of his brain. I will let your imagination figure out what the chocolate portion represents.

 

[Move2CLT]

Whatever fantasy you choose to entertain yourself with Move... knock yourself out. I've shown you in the contracts where I was right and you just can't handle it.... LOL!!!!!

Driver...

You haven't shown me jack.

And it really doesn't make sense that you would get us profit sharing and get nothing for yourself, does it.

Truth is we got out own profit sharing and you guys tried and failed for parity. It was all about leverage. We had it and you didn't.

Ask BP, your new CP. he was there.

Look who just got a profit sharing check and look who atoll doesn't have parity. There's your truth boo boo.

Now run along and rub one more out to that fantasy you keep having. It doesn't make sense but it seems to turn you on.

 

[Move2CLT]

I voted for Eric as did several of my friends. He didn't even get the full support of the West pilots. I suppose apathy abides everywhere. As for parity, it died when our MECs fell out of love with each other.

Driver...

It was never alive for you you dreamer.

 

[luvn737s]

I could NOT in good conscience left my wife holding the bag with no benefit if I passed away first (but maybe breezy isn't married).

Jim

The east pilots have no conscience. But I can imagine Mr.Sleeze has at least a few ex-wives plus one that daily marks off the days till completing the "till death do us part" sentence. Walk away from a mortgage, walk a way from a marriage, walk away from an arbitration, walk away from anything that interferes with your immediate gratification. The east way!

 

[cactusboy53]

I voted for Eric as did several of my friends. He didn't even get the full support of the West pilots. I suppose apathy abides everywhere. As for parity, it died when our MECs fell out of love with each other.

Driver...

Uhmmmm...3872 eligible voters. 3456 cast votes. 89.3% turn out.

PHX only had just over 1200 eligible voters just prior to the election. We did vote in new members, and we MAY have had as many as 60 new members.

I would say that shy of 50 people that have the head's up & locked (a guess)...PHX most certainly showed up in full force.

Looking back at the first election, 67.26% of the combined pilot group voted AWAY from DOH to the LAST DAY (Hummel stated then "let the courts decide"). That figure is VERY TELLING. It tells me that 67% of this pilot group knows (or is willing to acquiesce) that DOH is DEAD.

For the runoff, the EAST pilot group showed up as well. As it pertains to this runoff (IMHO) 62.68% of the pilot group just couldn't stomach the successful leader of Leonidas as the leader of this union. The 50 votes that Eric got (100 for Koontz because there were 50 more that knew what a complete failure Bradford is) from you guys was nice, but not near enough.

I do think the runoff results will send a message to LCC that they will need to dig really deep to buy a contract that is Nicolau-inclusive (IMHO). The results are not unexpected. Your pilot group has proven time and time again that denile is not just a river in Egypt. The courts will decide. Any level headed person that has read the arbitration & court transcripts (all, not just a few cherry picked sentences) has a pretty good idea where this is going.

 

[Pi brat]

The east pilots have no conscience. But I can imagine Mr.Sleeze has at least a few ex-wives plus one that daily marks off the days till completing the "till death do us part" sentence. Walk away from a mortgage, walk a way from a marriage, walk away from an arbitration, walk away from anything that interferes with your immediate gratification. The east way!

Yet the pilot you quoted was an east pilot. Again I ask, how did Piedmont, Allegheny, US Air, PSA, Eastern, Trump, Lake Central, and Mohawk just happen to find low life people to hire?

You anger is showing, better tuck it in.

 

[Move2CLT]

Don't bother. He likes to make things up.

It's pointless throwing facts at him.

 

[Pi brat]

Uhmmmm...3872 eligible voters. 3456 cast votes. 89.3% turn out.

PHX only had just over 1200 eligible voters just prior to the election. We did vote in new members, and we MAY have had as many as 60 new members.

I would say that shy of 50 people that have the head's up & locked (a guess)...PHX most certainly showed up in full force.

Looking back at the first election, 67.26% of the combined pilot group voted AWAY from DOH to the LAST DAY (Hummel stated then "let the courts decide"). That figure is VERY TELLING. It tells me that 67% of this pilot group knows (or is willing to acquiesce) that DOH is DEAD.

For the runoff, the EAST pilot group showed up as well. As it pertains to this runoff (IMHO) 62.68% of the pilot group just couldn't stomach the successful leader of Leonidas as the leader of this union. The 50 votes that Eric got (100 for Koontz because there were 50 more that knew what a complete failure Bradford is) from you guys was nice, but not near enough.

I do think the runoff results will send a message to LCC that they will need to dig really deep to buy a contract that is Nicolau-inclusive (IMHO). The results are not unexpected. Your pilot group has proven time and time again that denile is not just a river in Egypt. The courts will decide. Any level headed person that has read the arbitration & court transcripts (all, not just a few cherry picked sentences) has a pretty good idea where this is going.

After the election both sides just rehash the same old rhetoric. My vote for Hummel had nothing to do with DOH. I might have voted for a west pilot, just not that west pilot. I remember all the stuff that has come from him. I remember how he no longer supported the recall of Cleary because he was "best for the west". That plus the fact that they said they WOULD deliver an industry LEADING contract to the most screwed up, dysfunctional, pilot group in the country. The bottom line is I do not trust the guy. I did vote for two west pilots in this election.

There is value to this having a final answer in the courts. We won't spend the next 20 years arguing who was right or wrong. You guys decided to file the Addington. I know you felt you HAD to, but so did the guys that felt they HAD to vote USAPA in. We made they choices, we live with the outcome.

 

[luvthe9]

The east pilots have no conscience. But I can imagine Mr.Sleeze has at least a few ex-wives plus one that daily marks off the days till completing the "till death do us part" sentence. Walk away from a mortgage, walk a way from a marriage, walk away from an arbitration, walk away from anything that interferes with your immediate gratification. The east way!

Wow, the reality of winding up with nothing is really setting in. Had a fed on the jumpseat the other day and told us the company is getting back the old AWA certificate, I wonder why. I'm pretty sure AMR does not want to get involved with this operation as it is now. Should be interesting!!!

 

[Move2CLT]

Funny. I too had a Fed on my seat. He said he watched an eastie devour an entire bucket of greasy chicken.

So he told that FO an AWA certificate story to f with him.

LMAO.

 

[A320 Driver]

Don't bother. He likes to make things up.

It's pointless throwing facts at him.

Hey dude. I didn't know that only 1200 or so out of the 1800 West pilots bothered to join the union. As far as facts go, I quoted LOA 93 and the Transition Agreement, even gave you the PAGE NUMBERS to back up my statement regarding the profit sharing. Now, who's got facts and who doesn't. I quoted the contracts...what did you quote? Whatever you pulled out of your ass..."boo boo".

LOL!!!!!

Driver...

 

[Pi brat]

Hey dude. I didn't know that only 1200 or so out of the 1800 West pilots bothered to join the union. As far as facts go, I quoted LOA 93 and the Transition Agreement, even gave you the PAGE NUMBERS to back up my statement regarding the profit sharing. Now, who's got facts and who doesn't. I quoted the contracts...what did you quote? Whatever you pulled out of your ass..."boo boo".

LOL!!!!!

Driver...

Since uhaul put that post right under mine where I quoted 737lvrboy, I figured he was talking about him making stuff up. I was thinking that for once we agreed.