US Pilots Labor Discussion

[SparrowHawk]

Not so dangerous an assumption at all. One might, however wonder what an individual who employs a worthless, murderous terrorist as an avatar would have to offer by way of "education" in how any, even relatively free society, should conduct it's self....not to mention one who was determined to avoid Service during time of war. As for "is correct with his quote"....I've confidence that the "nice men" can afford you amiable escort as well......

If an Irish Republican Army "Provo" meets your definition of a Terrorist the so does Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Hancock. Franklin and the rest of the signers of of the Declaration of Independence meet your definition.

His implication was that USAPA engaged in "Majority Rules" or some might argue "Mob Rule". A pure Democracy is essentially mob rule.

 

[EastUS1]

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.

That's why this country is a constitutional republic, not a democracy.

I can't immediately think of any societal grouping of our interesting little species that ever existed as a true democracy. Even going back to the classical city states era of Athens, with the men (only) sometimes gathering to determine issues...well...I'll take a wild guess that the ladies, much less the slaves, were hardly impressed by the grandeur of it all.....

 

[luvthe9]

Well, so much "transparency" from Hummel. The three weasels ( Hummel, Bradford and Streble) took off to PHX for a secret meeting, what could they be discussing behind the pilots back, the BPR did not even know about it. Negotiating committee is out there to I think. Now we find out the APA president has been out talking to Doug a few days ago, that's special. This was NOT AUTHORIZED by the BPR. Hummel must go!!!!!!!

 

[EastUS1]

If an Irish Republican Army "Provo" meets your definition of a Terrorist the so does Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Hancock. Franklin and the rest of the signers of of the Declaration of Independence meet your definition.

His implication was that USAPA engaged in "Majority Rules" or some might argue "Mob Rule". A pure Democracy is essentially mob rule.

"so does Washington" Hardly! It's far past just a "bit" laughably twisted to compare a man, who directly risked his life on many fields of open and honorable battle, (yet amazingly enough, seeing no need for a mask), with any such. Equally; "signers of of the Declaration of Independence" did nothing to seek shelter from recognition and direct involvement with whatever consequences their action had. One might look to Mr. Hancock's "subtle" signature.....

Whatever the manifest flaws were with the birthing of the United States, (slavery still existent/etc) the astounding, courageous, and visionary product of such amazing people as were directly involved represents, in my opinion, the very finest social experiment/form of government yet dared to be achieved by human kind. To compare the likes of the founding fathers to contemporary terrorists is so far past preposterous as to warrant no further comment.

As for: "His implication was"? I'll leave any individual to personally state his/her own views.

 

[cleardirect]

It's our constitution. And we voted on it. The mob is screaming, thief, clown, and scab.
Just like folks were in denial about Bush being our president, those who groused about it made no effect on reality.

What does your constitution say? Does it say that you can demand and impose DOH? Does it say that all shall bow down to DOH?

Tell use what your constitution says about seniority. Legally.

 

[cleardirect]

Well, so much "transparency" from Hummel. The three weasels ( Hummel, Bradford and Streble) took off to PHX for a secret meeting, what could they be discussing behind the pilots back, the BPR did not even know about it. Negotiating committee is out there to I think. Now we find out the APA president has been out talking to Doug a few days ago, that's special. This was NOT AUTHORIZED by the BPR. Hummel must go!!!!!!!

This is funny. You are screaming for Hummels removal before he even takes office because he did not talk to the board.

So hypocrite. Where were your screams when Cleary went to DFW to talk to Ferguson and giving away DOH? Without BPR approval of even informing the BPR????????????????

Why didn't you cry for Cleary's removal?

 

[nevergiveup]

Assumptive projections bother you?

Ok, lets go with women's suffrage or civil rights. With your logic women would never vote and black people would still be riding in the back of the bus.

That still too assumptive?

Only thing worse than a dictator is a democracy.

Quick, someone lock the door and keep him out!

 

[luvthe9]

Why didn't you cry for Cleary's removal?

Why, because Cleary did not go behind our back . Gentlemen,



If you call the Marriott at 480-966-2800 you will find that all three of our newly elected officer are listed as having rooms at the PHX Marriott. Is this a crew hotel and did the current officers or BPR authorize any work for these men in Arizona?

 

[fodase]

Well, so much "transparency" from Hummel. The three weasels ( Hummel, Bradford and Streble) took off to PHX for a secret meeting, what could they be discussing behind the pilots back, the BPR did not even know about it. Negotiating committee is out there to I think. Now we find out the APA president has been out talking to Doug a few days ago, that's special. This was NOT AUTHORIZED by the BPR. Hummel must go!!!!!!!

Are you not aware that Marty harper and aol has already met with the APA? Or that the APA told Parker that he must have one list for any merger? I wonder why usapa is not invited to any of these meetings?

 

[signals]

Quick, someone lock the door and keep him out!

Good luck with that one

 

[traderjake]

Why, because Cleary did not go behind our back .

How many lawsuits did Cleary file without BPR or pilot approval?

 

[Phoenix]

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.

That's why this country is a constitutional republic, not a democracy.

You said "constitutional". You my friend are brilliant, whether or not you even realize it!

 

[luvn737s]

Well, so much "transparency" from Hummel. The three weasels ( Hummel, Bradford and Streble) took off to PHX for a secret meeting, what could they be discussing behind the pilots back, the BPR did not even know about it. Negotiating committee is out there to I think.

Would that be the PHX where USAirways is based and is the largest crew base? Maybe they are looking for a new headquarters for USAPA. Better make it a short term lease!

 

[signals]

What if the junior pilots voted that all senior pilots must work Christmas? Would you honor that vote?

If it's overtime and an easy ride, try to stop me! But now lets hear the science as to why not.... :blink:

 

[Phoenix]

What does your constitution say? Does it say that you can demand and impose DOH? Does it say that all shall bow down to DOH?

Tell use what your constitution says about seniority. Legally.

Our constitution.. You can say "our constitution", legally, even if it hurts.