US Pilots Labor Discussion

[OTTER574]

Hello Honorable Federal Judge Conrad...this is LCC LEGAL Robert Siegel calling in regards to that permanent injunction you have control of concerning a corrupt union, for their illegal job action...you might remember them?? maybe??...I think they call themselves usapa....

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[fodase]

The only logical methodology for the APA is to not use the Nic. To use the Nic would be to put the far junior western div pilots ahead of the already retiring eastern div pilots. That does not make any sense at all to the APA. The APA pilots are well aware of this, and are already planning to use it to their advantage.

LOL, man this one is good. Those seats are vacated and positions open, the west pilot age has no effect on movement for the amr pilots, because we are slotted. BTW the beauty is the west Pilot's get to claim the east attrition, lol. But just for fun, tell me which list will be used, show your work claxsucker.

 

[Claxon]

Give it up Claxon. You're posts are getting more and more pathetic as you ratchet up your diatribe.

Not even your own east brothers believe what you say.

Give it a rest.

The reality of what may befall your western working brothers and sisters is rather alarming. The APA is well aware of the best system for them, and they will most assuredly use it. I merely made you aware of what you already are slow to realize.

 

[Move2CLT]

The reality of what may befall your western working brothers and sisters is rather alarming. The APA is well aware of the best system for them, and they will most assuredly use it. I merely made you aware of what you already are slow to realize.

I do believe that, as many of your east brethren have posted, the APA is going with relative seniority.

Did you not read that part?

Oh, BTW, that no furlough clause extends to ALL workgroups on BOTH sides.

 

[Claxon]

LOL, man this one is good. Those seats are vacated and positions open, the west pilot age has no effect on movement for the amr pilots, because we are slotted. BTW the beauty is the west Pilot's get to claim the east attrition, lol. But just for fun, tell me which list will be used, show your work claxsucker.

Not my work to claim. Merely advising you of what the APA is aware of in the potential merging of lists. Past practice indicates they are not the most charitable fellows when it comes to seniority, and the fact of your Nic scheme and its' needing to be in a ratified CBA to be legal has certainly not escaped their most observant and trained eyes.

 

[Move2CLT]

Not my work to claim. Merely advising you of what the APA is aware of in the potential merging of lists. Past practice indicates they are not the most charitable fellows when it comes to seniority, and the fact of your Nic scheme and its' needing to be in a ratified CBA to be legal has certainly not escaped their most observant and trained eyes.

Did you miss this part from the APA?

"After Dave left it was back to Q&A with Rusty and Russ and I asked Rusty about the seniority merge and the Nicolau award. Dave had basically said it was not a factor but Rusty wasn’t sure said the lawyers had differing opinions on it but said it should come out to where if you are at the 50 percentile point on your fleet your combined seniority number would put you at that place. Said that this along with seat pay protection might solve the Supp CC problem but if not then it would be decided by another 3 person panel."

 

[Claxon]

The Nic will not be referenced by the APA in any legal document because it was not memorialized by a CBA. It is merely a dusty relic sitting on Parkers' shelf, waiting to be shredded when the AA deal moves on without it.

 

[Claxon]

Did you miss this part from the APA?

"After Dave left it was back to Q&A with Rusty and Russ and I asked Rusty about the seniority merge and the Nicolau award. Dave had basically said it was not a factor but Rusty wasn’t sure said the lawyers had differing opinions on it but said [b]it should come out to where if you are at the 50 percentile point on your fleet your combined seniority number would put you at that place[/b]. Said that this along with seat pay protection might solve the Supp CC problem but if not then it would be decided by another 3 person panel."

That is quite an impressive document, that little discussion by someone named Dave and Rusty. The part where "Dave had basically said..." is especially important and legally binding. 😱 Let's not forget the "IT SHOULD come out to where...." This must be the kind of thing that makes your employed brothers and sisters begin throwing coinage at shady lawyers.

 

[Claxon]

Would Dave and Rusty be someones' dogs that were brought to that meeting?

 

[Move2CLT]

If it makes you sleep a bit easier, our lawyers have already been in contact with both the APA and the company.

I can assure you the Nic will be used.

 

[Move2CLT]

Would Dave and Rusty be someones' dogs that were brought to that meeting?

Excellent Claxon. You've already started underestimating the opposition.

Right on schedule.

Tell me, did you ever end up getting that CoC or DOH?

 

[luvthe9]

The Nic will not be referenced by the APA in any legal document because it was not memorialized by a CBA. It is merely a dusty relic sitting on Parkers' shelf, waiting to be shredded when the AA deal moves on without it.

Well JUNEBUG, you got us thrown off the AA board, Claxon has a good point, I think we will be statring all over, the west senior pilots are getting tired of you kids and want to move foward.

 

[Move2CLT]

Well JUNEBUG, you got us thrown off the AA board, Claxon has a good point, I think we will be statring all over, the west senior pilots are getting tired of you kids and want to move foward.

No CB, you actually did with that Ansett reference. Nice work throwing that in.

And no, Claxon is never right (you two have that in common). The Nic is going to be integrated with APA's list using relative seniority.

How did that snapback thing go? MDA? Ya, you were off a bit, weren't you?

And where's your "Nic Destroyer" signature?

And where was Cleary months ago when Parker was talking to the APA?

 

[cleardirect]

The Nic will not be referenced by the APA in any legal document because it was not memorialized by a CBA. It is merely a dusty relic sitting on Parkers' shelf, waiting to be shredded when the AA deal moves on without it.

Until Silver rules and memorializes it.

A vote is not required or allowed on a seniority list.

 

[Claxon]

If it makes you sleep a bit easier, our lawyers have already been in contact with both the APA and the company.

I can assure you the Nic will be used.

That is a most assuring statement. Makes everyone feel better because that is the exact pathway to understanding the TWA pilots took with the APA, and as you are aware, they received a most charitable reception as well as outcome.