OK. Enough of this B*llsh1t!
flypg and V, you are obviously the ignorant retard, not traderjake. He may not have been there but he definitely has it right. Let me TELL you exactly what it was like, from the grandson of man with REAL integrity, who WAS there. Straight from his lips in first person.
My grandfather was drafted into the German army and fought on the Russian front until becoming a prisoner of war in Russia... and survived to find his family in refugee camps in Austria (a fate not shared by many soldiers who were POW's in Russia) before immigrating to the US in '52. If he were alive today and in the same room as you, he's kick your pathetic a$$ right into last week for YOUR ignorance.
The German soldiers who knew the difference between right and wrong, like him, did not blindly follow the marching orders of their superiors in the name of solidarity with their fellow soldiers. He did not buy into the propaganda fed to him by superiors. And he had enough time in confinement to prove it. German soldiers like him, who questioned the party line were not treated like teachers pets. Sound familiar to you? It should. His loyalty to the German army and his fellow soldiers went only so far as to avoid a firing squad, so he could return to his family. He was not a Nazi or ever near any concentration camps, but he saw the writing on the wall. He knew very well what the right and wrong thing to do was. He was released by the Russians at the wars end by pretending very convincingly to be Slavic. He did not proudly wear his German identity on his sleeve BECAUSE he knew they were wrong.
So you can take your perceived sense of righteousness, and your analogy of the German soldier's loyalty and what USAPA is doing and stuff it. You are not only ignorant, but an embarrassment to anyone with real sense of right and wrong. Pilot or not. Many real German soldiers knew they were on the wrong side of right. So do USAPA members. It takes REAL courage to admit it rather than blindly follow the leader.