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Unbiased Facts Update: (What is the next step for the PIC when the assessment runs out?): April 9, 2012

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Update for April 9, 2012

Quick Fact #232: What is the next step for the PIC when the assessment runs out? Is the PIC’s April 4, 2012 Update a continuing effort by USAPA to manipulate the pilot’s thoughts by providing false hope and expectations with “another compelling and dramatic direction”? Is the PIC setting the stage for USAPA to seek more of the East pilot’s hard earned dollars?

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Holy crap. We agree on something. I was against the PIC assesment from th beginning and it's time for it to end

 

[fatherabraham]

Son,

You can kiss my backside.

Either way, I win.

Cheats,

You dude are such a scary bad ass. Exhibit above wit at the courthouse to help all the west class.

FA

 

[EastUS1]

I'll bde damned if I allow the likes of you idoits in the driver's seat.

"bde.....you idoits" Folks...you just can't make this sort of thing up....

 

[Res Judicata]

Winning through losing. And you guys are supposed to be the smart ones. Right.

What?! You Idiots are f'ING PIONEERS in the concept! The West will always have the Law on their side however....big difference.

 

[Pi brat]

What?! You Idiots are f'ING PIONEERS in the concept! The West will always have the Law on their side however....big difference.

You are so blinded by anger. Go back and read my post and the one I referenced, then see if you can pick anything up from it.

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

APA buries USAPA and a west pilot wins. That has to be one of the most genius statements of all time.

Winning through losing. And you guys are supposed to be the smart ones. Right.

My dad used to say "genius, with a capital J." I can't see the logic in that either.

 

[Move2CLT]

APA buries USAPA and a west pilot wins. That has to be one of the most genius statements of all time.

Winning through losing. And you guys are supposed to be the smart ones. Right.

Hey genius,

Just what do you think APA is going to do to us? DOH cram down? Staple?

USAPA alive will do us all more harm then USAPA dead.

The sooner USAPA disappears, the better off we'll be.

 

[Move2CLT]

You are so blinded by anger...

Is that kind of like when you voted USAPA onto property?

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

If usapa goes away via a merger and us becoming APA, then so be it, I'll sure not shed a tear for usapa. But I certainly don't wish usapa to take a beating in the process, because we on the west will be included in that.

 

[Move2CLT]

If usapa goes away via a merger and us becoming APA, then so be it, I'll sure not shed a tear for usapa. But I certainly don't wish usapa to take a beating in the process, because we on the west will be included in that.

The only beating we take will be via USAPA trying to make some ugly deal with the APA at out expense.

 

[Move2CLT]

JUNEBUG, you need to learn how to read.

Wow luv, how long did it take for you to put that line together? Are you sure you didn't mean to write "I" instead of "you"?

So, which part are you referring to? Did you even read Bill's letter? I sure did. This was my favorite part:

"I hear pilots tell me that they are giving up and boy, that is a statement I often secretly share with them."

Are you one of them luv?

 

[traderjake]

Winning through losing. And you guys are supposed to be the smart ones. Right.

Want can APA do to the West that is worst than what USAPA has been trying for the last 3 years?

 

[A320 Driver]

Tell you what Driver, I'll put it in the simplest terms in bold print. THE EAST DOES NOT REPRESENT INTERESTS OF THE WEST. Get it throught your collective thick heads, USAPA is a dues collection agency. If you have any doubts, walk through the A concourse in PHX and take a poll. Be sure to wear a yellow lanyard. You'll get plenty of responses.

You are missing the ENTIRE POINT!
When it comes time to sit down at the table with the company and the APA (maybe), USAPA will be your bargaining agent. Plain and simple. If you are not a union member, you have NO reason to gripe.

You don't have to like USAPA to be part of the process. I don't care for USAPA, but I pay my money and I vote in every election. Correct me if I am wrong...in the last election, there were just over 1200 eligible voters based in PHX. Where is the other 1/3? Sitting on the sidelines complaining I'll bet. I have no sympathy whatsoever for those individuals.

Driver...

 

[767one]

No we're not.

Eric and Jeff were not former ALPA anything.

I'm pretty sure they were alpa members.

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

The only beating we take will be via USAPA trying to make some ugly deal with the APA at out expense.

Well if APA goes along with that, then how much 'better' would they be for us? If that were the case, it seems like the APA would merely be more of the same. Kind of a meet the new boss...