US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Move2CLT]

That's the goal of the APA to have junior people go ahead them , I'm sure the APA wants the NIC. I bet they will let you right into their 777's since you think you probably saved them. You guys are just to funny. How are all those "damages" that were promised to you guys by AOL going. 😛

You do realize that the integration will be slotting, with fences, right?

Wipe that spittle from the corner of your mouth, calm down, and think for a bit a bit instead of just posting whatever your mental diarrhea flows into your fingers.

Deep breath luv.

Deep breath.

 

[Move2CLT]

An east F/O named Chris Lazear has filed a lawsuit against USAPA alleging fraud, larceny, embezzlement, conspiracy, and negligence.

 

[cleardirect]

APA cannot legally use the NIC if there is no contract prior to merging the 2(3) groups.

Why?

The Nicolau is the accepted seniority list by the company. The T/A says we have to use the Nicolau list. If there is a merger usapa is going to have to had over a single list not 2 lists. It may not be used for bidding purposes until we have a joint contract but Nicolau is the combined list.

 

[Move2CLT]

And to add to that, it looks like the ruling on the Appeal Board elections isn't quite cut and dry.

This is what happens when you pay for legal counsel and then disregard their recommendations.

So Hummel went out and paid a personal visit to the law firm and was told some very disturbing stuff regarding the decision to overturn to election.

And now Jay Morgan of the Ballot Certificaiton Committee comes out with:

"An official announcement will come out from the Appeal Board when it is official. I am aware that a decision was 'sort of' released. There was a problem with it and it is not official."

I can't wait until Hummel takes over. The neck-deep crap he's stepping into is going to prove amusing as he tries to crawl out if it.

 

[luvthe9]

Three FAs Win Defamation Suit Brought By FO After Icing Incident
But Now They're Stuck With Legal Bills As Airline Refuses To Help
Three former America West (now US Airways) flight attendants have prevailed against a defamation suit brought against them by First Officer Ed Gannon, sparked by the FAs report of the FOs failure to follow proper deicing procedures.

In 2006, FO Gannon filed a $2 million suit against Paula Walker, Sue Burris and Brian Shunick. His complaint stated the flight attendants' "making of false allegations jeopardizing Gannon's ability to work in his profession is, on its face, (1) intentional and reckless, (2)......... http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=a8e299a5-5b99-4735-8000-0d3b62c0e865

 

[luvthe9]

Deep breath luv.

Deep breath.

It's real hard JUNEBUG, you guys just make me laugh too much, just looking back over the last several weeks you can see the increase in desperation from you kids.

 

[Move2CLT]

Three FAs Win Defamation Suit Brought By FO After Icing Incident
But Now They're Stuck With Legal Bills As Airline Refuses To Help
Three former America West (now US Airways) flight attendants have prevailed against a defamation suit brought against them by First Officer Ed Gannon, sparked by the FAs report of the FOs failure to follow proper deicing procedures.

In 2006, FO Gannon filed a $2 million suit against Paula Walker, Sue Burris and Brian Shunick. His complaint stated the flight attendants' "making of false allegations jeopardizing Gannon's ability to work in his profession is, on its face, (1) intentional and reckless, (2)......... http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=a8e299a5-5b99-4735-8000-0d3b62c0e865

Great job finding that one luv. That one goes all the way back to 2009!!! Must have dug deep for that one.

Look what I found!! A bit more recent I might add:

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/crime/pilot-accused-of-assaulting-hotel-security-guard-6-15-2011

And wow!! Check this one out!!!

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=7519808

 

[EastUS1]

The problem for you is that I can process well written statements.

Like is said, "well written." You'll learn, one day, that big words don't make your thoughts more legitimate.

Your first, I suppose, must be accepted on faith. Your second precludes any possibility of your being capable of such yourself.

Enough of this fine cess pool for now.

Enjoy the day.

 

[Move2CLT]

It's real hard JUNEBUG, you guys just make me laugh to much, just looking back over the last several weeks you can see the increase in desperation from you kids.

Desperation? Only in that mind of yours luv.

With all of your recent losses (MDA, LOA93, snapback, no 3%, injunction, parked), you guys are the ones that seem a bit desperate.

You guys are so frustrated that you now have east pilots suing USAPA!!!

Here's a bit of the overview:

This Complaint is brought forth by a Plaintiff who is employed in Mecklenburg County
North Carolina against Defendants who conduct their business in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina.

The subject matter of counts and the venue are a matter for a Mecklenburg County Court.
The Defendants' through their authority violated their fiduciary duty by certifying to false statements. The Defendants' caused the Plaintiff to be fired. The Defendants' misdirected the union dues of the Plaintiff. The Defendants' sent out false statements with the intent to deceive.

 

[luvthe9]

Great job finding that one luv. That one goes all the way back to 2009!!! Must have dug deep for that one.

Look what I found!! A bit more recent I might add:

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/crime/pilot-accused-of-assaulting-hotel-security-guard-6-15-2011

And wow!! Check this one out!!!

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=7519808

You are so predictable JUNEBUG, Thanks I just picked up a few bucks on a bet with some friends here. PS I'm fine with LOA 93. 😉

 

[Move2CLT]

Your first, I suppose, must be accepted on faith. Your second precludes any possibility of your being capable of such yourself.

Enough of this fine cess pool for now.

Enjoy the day.

Yawn.

Once again, all blah and nothing more.

Enjoy your day as well.

 

[Move2CLT]

You are so predictable JUNEBUG, Thanks I just picked up a few bucks on a bet with some friends here.

Glad I could help you. I've made a bet with some friends here on what food you'll spend the on. I do believe I'll win that as well so thanks to you as well.

PS I'm fine with LOA 93. 😉

Only an east pilot would be happy with a bankruptcy contract. I'm happy for you.

How's that membership committee work?

 

[jetjok1]

Whoa! I thought for a minute that you were a west poster!



You call it "value", everyone else calls it LOA 93!




And also remember, someone can have one foot on the street because of impending liquidation one minute and then have their "career" saved with a merger the next....

JUST LIKE YOU!

So, Move, am I to assume that based on your above statement that the 24% flying you have of East routes.....they are unprofitable because of your extremely high salaries and work rules...
Oh, I get it now 😱 😱 😱 😱

 

[Move2CLT]

So, Move, am I to assume that based on your above statement that the 24% flying you have of East routes.....they are unprofitable because of your extremely high salaries and work rules...
Oh, I get it now 😱 😱 😱 😱

No, they're just routes with higher yields that cover our higher crew costs.

Why? Do you think we don't get paid more than you do? I can show you our rates.

I'm curious as to where this 24% number came from. Can you post the source?

 

[cleardirect]

So, Move, am I to assume that based on your above statement that the 24% flying you have of East routes.....they are unprofitable because of your extremely high salaries and work rules...
Oh, I get it now 😱 😱 😱 😱

You seem so concerned about this 24%.

How about you give us some details.

Is it the west doing 24% of east flying or is it 24% of the west flying comes from the east?

You guys always leave out the part about the 4% that that the east is doing of west flying.

Tell us what is the net effect of this shift in flying? usapa lied to the court and said it would effect 330 pilots. Care to prove the case?

BTW who do you think has higher work rule costs? East or West? Listen to Parkers crew news he has said that the TOTAL cost for crews is about the same. So that means because you are at the bottom of the industry wages your rules must be more expensive. You think all that training you guys do is free?