Winglets Official!

[Wretched Wrench]

If you wanted a steady job you should have never gotten into the airline industry, even as a child I knew that.

Oh?....................I hired in during the CR Smith regime, and have not missed a day, save a short strike.

 

[MAH4546]

Unfortunately the winglets only add about 200 miles. Considering most of the 20 planes will be used for Hawaii flying and current Europe flying, I wouldn't expect an overload of new destinations.

[post="300819"][/post]​

The winglets make routes including MIA-CNF, MIA-COR, JFK-BRU, and MIA-ASU possible. The wingletted 757s may also be getting extended range fuel tanks, though AA hasn't decided on that yet.

 

[FWAAA]

Unfortunately the winglets only add about 200 miles. Considering most of the 20 planes will be used for Hawaii flying and current Europe flying, I wouldn't expect an overload of new destinations.

[post="300819"][/post]​

They provide increased range of about 200 nm OR up to 10,000 pounds of incremental payload capacity. I don't expect a slew of new international destinations, but I do predict a couple new JFK-Europe routes and a couple new BOS-Europe routes.

 

[FWAAA]

I would rather face a layoff than a paycut. With a layoff I have a reasonable expectation that I will have a good job to return to. We knew the industry was volitile but we never expected to see huge paycuts. Layoffs yes, paycuts no. Paycuts dont save jobs, if they dont need you they wont keep you even if you are willing to work for less. All we did was take money out of our pockets so it could go to someone else. We dont see the top dogs taking paycuts do we?

[post="300823"][/post]​

Well, I wanted a pony, but I didn't get one. 🙄

AA laid off some mechanics, but it wanted its maintenance work done for fewer $$$, which meant reducing everyone's pay, not just laying some of them off.

What you would rather have had didn't matter. It didn't matter to AA, it didn't matter to your lapdog union (which you endured for over 20 years) and it doesn't matter to the customers. That you would rather have been laid off matters to nobody but you. And you don't own or manage your employer.

What you lack is any real bargaining power. What little you have (the power to leave the shackles of AA and find better employment) you have never exercised. Not during the 20+ years of industry-leading concessions and not during or since the horrific paycuts you suffered in 2003. Martyrdom must be your goal, since it's obvious that finding a better-paying job isn't your goal. I thought only Japanese salarymen longed to work for the same employer for nearly their entire career. Your loyalty to AA (demonstrated by you sticking around and taking everything thrown at you) is beyond that of even your diehard customers.

Hard to respect someone who works for nearly 25 years for less money than they think they are worth. No wonder nobody at AA respects the mechanics. They talk a good game, but rollover and accept whatever AA throws their way.

Good luck with that industry-wide shutdown strike fantasy you keep posting. Too bad nobody is buying it.

 

[Bob Owens]

FWAAA,Sep 15 2005, 03:56 AM


What you lack is any real bargaining power.

The fact is we had a contract in place. We did not have to open it and we shouldnt have. And I dispute your claim. Our problem is poor leadership.

What little you have (the power to leave the shackles of AA and find better employment) you have never exercised. Blah, blah blah

Been though that several times. No need to do it again.

Hard to respect someone who works for nearly 25 years for less money than they think they are worth. No wonder nobody at AA respects the mechanics. They talk a good game, but rollover and accept whatever AA throws their way.

I'm, ready to strike as soon as the word is given.

Good luck with that industry-wide shutdown strike fantasy you keep posting. Too bad nobody is buying it.


Maybe, maybe not, but they do it all the time in Europe and we dont see them all losing their jobs. It sure would be good to see. By the way I'm not trying to "sell it" to you, after all you are just here for kicks since you dont even work in this industry right?

 

[skyflyr69]

I Love it! But damn what are we going to do about fuel prices? Our carrier is the only legacy carrier that has not filed for BK in the last 2 decades or ever? Someone correct me if I am wrong. I hope these winglets will finally make us into that international airline, and drop most of the domestic stuff that we just can't compete with LLC's.

[post="300719"][/post]​

Your cuts etc. are coming.............
🙁

 

[B.O.B.]

Your cuts etc. are coming.............
🙁

[post="300870"][/post]​

Unlike Delta, we get to vote on that!

 

[MCI transplant]

<_< O.K.! Winglets! I read they come in kit form. Now, we're talking a major strucural wing mode here! The wings will have to be beefed up from the engines outboard! Who'll do them, and where??? And how many Aircraft? Just thought I'de ask!!! 😉

 

[aafsc]

<_< O.K.! Winglets! I read they come in kit form. Now, we're talking a major strucural wing mode here! The wings will have to be beefed up from the engines outboard! Who'll do them, and where??? And how many Aircraft? Just thought I'de ask!!! 😉

[post="300882"][/post]​

I read on jetwire that TUL was going to install them. And the number of 757s is 20. Plus 1 737.

 

[coolflyingfool]

With gas pricese unstable, I am glad to see the winglets coming. In a sense, they are fixed costs. Get them now and save as much fuel as you can. Just my thoughts...........

 

[TIME FOR CHANGE]

What will eventually bring this airline down is your cynicism. If you wanted a steady job you should have never gotten into the airline industry, even as a child I knew that. But oh well, keep up your griping and whining, look how far it has gotten you so far. <_<

[post="300789"][/post]​

You must be 18 then because 20 years ago this was a good job.
Now it is a dead end

 

[TIME FOR CHANGE]

Well, I wanted a pony, but I didn't get one. 🙄

AA laid off some mechanics, but it wanted its maintenance work done for fewer $$$, which meant reducing everyone's pay, not just laying some of them off.

What you would rather have had didn't matter. It didn't matter to AA, it didn't matter to your lapdog union (which you endured for over 20 years) and it doesn't matter to the customers. That you would rather have been laid off matters to nobody but you. And you don't own or manage your employer.

What you lack is any real bargaining power. What little you have (the power to leave the shackles of AA and find better employment) you have never exercised. Not during the 20+ years of industry-leading concessions and not during or since the horrific paycuts you suffered in 2003. Martyrdom must be your goal, since it's obvious that finding a better-paying job isn't your goal. I thought only Japanese salarymen longed to work for the same employer for nearly their entire career. Your loyalty to AA (demonstrated by you sticking around and taking everything thrown at you) is beyond that of even your diehard customers.

Hard to respect someone who works for nearly 25 years for less money than they think they are worth. No wonder nobody at AA respects the mechanics. They talk a good game, but rollover and accept whatever AA throws their way.

Good luck with that industry-wide shutdown strike fantasy you keep posting. Too bad nobody is buying it.

[post="300851"][/post]​

You fail to realize for many of us it is a fight for the profession of the AMT and sadly enough for many of us AA has become our second job milking the cow like they keep milking us

 

[MCI transplant]

I read on jetwire that TUL was going to install them. And the number of 757s is 20. Plus 1 737.

[post="300897"][/post]​

<_< TUL. Oh really! Is this is the same TUL that coudn't get a 767 pylon back on the aircraft after a simple bushing mod? O.K.! Thank you for the info. aa! And yes, now that you mention it I did read somewhere that it was 20 757s. That one 737 is a bet of a surprise though! But it dose make sence.

 

[AAStew]

You must be 18 then because 20 years ago this was a good job.
Now it is a dead end

[post="300946"][/post]​

Do some research. Twenty years ago, a/b scales were started, people were coming off futloughs at AA and others like Eastern. National, Pan Am. This industry has always been volatile. Seriously, research it.

 

[AAStew]

Oh?....................I hired in during the CR Smith regime, and have not missed a day, save a short strike.

[post="300828"][/post]​

CR Smith? He retired in 1968. Your seniority has been your saving grace.