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Lets' ask, What is a Union ? and what has the IAM done for us, in regards to the answer ?

A union is an organized group of workers who come together to make decisions about the conditions of their work. Through union membership, workers can impact wages, work hours, benefits, workplace health and safety, and other work-related issues. Under U.S. law, workers of all ages have the right to join a union. Having support from the union to ensure fair treatment in the workplace is one of the key reasons people join.
Many of the benefits and protections workers in all industries rely on today came about as a result of union efforts. These include the minimum wage, social security payments, an eight-hour day, weekends, overtime pay, protection from discrimination for people with disabilities and health and safety protections.

Well the first part tells me that although the elected AGC and Local Lodge members are in essence
in place to represent me in the IAM . In reality they are elected from a wide pool of voters, so a AGC
whose interests lie with a certain company may be elected by an election severly off balance. (ie.
someone who has company A's best interest at heart could win that election if company B's voters
are out numbered. There by ,severly impacting thier voice in thier represented body)


Now the second part highlighted speaks for itself.
1. An 8.0hr day is now 8.5hr day (prior to bankruptcy)
2. Weekends are now limited by the company to ensure more of a workforce
schedued for work on the weekend.(prior to bankruptcy)
3. Overtime pay, doulble time lost and sick time and holiday pay severly impacted
and not being negotiated back in the way the workforce seeks. (after bankruptcy but
being negotiated by the elected AGC's not from the bargaining workforce.)


The IBEW would represent me as a member and speak for me as a voter. I would have more say about
the issues that effect me. I would not have to rely on a sitting member on another board to represent
me in negotiations, creating in my view a serious conflict of interest.

bob :glare:
 
Bob I guess the nominations your. Just pick an office? A spot? Not sure if thats what its called. You would have to be better than anyone running things in the IAM at any level.
 
700,

I asked you a question. I have asked you questions before that you have never seemed to answer. Either my questions are not understood by you, or if you answer them you will have exposed yourself. It is also a good possibility that you have put me on ignore because my questions are hitting to close to home with you. If you can in fact read this, and don't have me on ignore would you answer this question? Do you work for US in a ramp classification? If not, do you work for US in any capacity?

For all of you that have asked 700 questions, he/she may also have you on ignore.
 
Just like how the CWA did and you saw how they sold the west out without a vote on the CBA and gave up the COC in order for the company not to challenge the IBT/CWA Alliance which was all over the IBT and CWA getting the dues money.
I guess you think CWA should have role the dice on the threat of the company trying to kick the CWA of the property and put the COC in the hands of the courts and arbitrator and hope for a contract for HP agents. All taking years to accomplish

The pay scale for airport and reservations at America West before April 2006
both classifications was start at $7.65 per hour and top out
at $13.09 per hour. It is important for agents to have this
information so they can understand the reality of America West.

America West pay raises and premiums and the pay scale were on a merit system and those
raises and premiums were given to individuals at their current pay rate,
rather than across the board. The top America West rate was still
$13.09 per hour ($27, 232 per year). It never increase more that $13.09

CWA negotiated a agreement with USAirways and America West for a interim 20 month transition agreement to bring America West agents pay up to $18.00 dollars hr. + future increases and improved benefits with snap backs to pre concessionary agreements of USAirway pass contract
 
I guess you think CWA should have role the dice on the threat of the company trying to kick the CWA of the property and put the COC in the hands of the courts and arbitrator and hope for a contract for HP agents. All taking years to accomplish

The pay scale for airport and reservations at America West before April 2006
both classifications was start at $7.65 per hour and top out
at $13.09 per hour. It is important for agents to have this
information so they can understand the reality of America West.

America West pay raises and premiums and the pay scale were on a merit system and those
raises and premiums were given to individuals at their current pay rate,
rather than across the board. The top America West rate was still
$13.09 per hour ($27, 232 per year). It never increase more that $13.09

CWA negotiated a agreement with USAirways and America West for a interim 20 month transition agreement to bring America West agents pay up to $18.00 dollars hr. + future increases and improved benefits with snap backs to pre concessionary agreements of USAirway pass contract
Not to mention the fact that they also eliminated the Mainline Express classification, and brought those people back to a fair wage. While on the other hand the IAM permitted the company to eliminate the MLE stations, who within the next 6 months saw their jobs outsourced forever. I would have been Thrilled to be a CWA member instead of an IAM one...At least I along with many others in smaller stations would still have a friggen job!!!
 
700,

I asked you a question. I have asked you questions before that you have never seemed to answer. Either my questions are not understood by you, or if you answer them you will have exposed yourself. It is also a good possibility that you have put me on ignore because my questions are hitting to close to home with you. If you can in fact read this, and don't have me on ignore would you answer this question? Do you work for US in a ramp classification? If not, do you work for US in any capacity?

For all of you that have asked 700 questions, he/she may also have you on ignore.

He's mentioned in other threads that he no longer works for US...He was a Stock Clerk last I saw him post...

Wherever he is now, he's a member of the BCTGM.
 
700, it was not due to an election. The IBT represented those folks but disclaimed any interest in their certification and presented this by letter to the NMB for a force revocation. When a union revokes its own certification it is with reason. Although this case has nothing to do with raids and elections, I'm somewhat interested in the reason why the IBT revoked their own certification and then allowed the IAM to have an election 45 days later. Usually this is because of mergers or 'something other'. At any rate, the NMB only revoked it due to the IBT's letter disclaiming interest in representing the stock clerks, again due to a merger or something other, but NOT because of an election.

regards,

I haven't written awhile. Ron Roth, Tom Brickner, Pat Flynn and whom ever are in Reno discussing a last ditch effort. Sounds like we heard they flew to Phx. Ron, has told us out west they are going to Reno. Out West we despise the fact we don't get priviledge to BCBS insurance for 2008. Because NO contract was settled with the TA single parents/ spouse plus employee/ part time cannot be covered. We had to BITE! on the UHC. Our union needs BALLS! We are done with NEGOTIATION! West gets compensated. Or! We take action. Not only was West not included in the ability to share UHC or BCBS but we get NO cost of living NOR wage increase. BUT! we NOW do CLP work. This is the LAST STRAW. Here come the presidential candidates!
 
I haven't written awhile. Ron Roth, Tom Brickner, Pat Flynn and whom ever are in Reno discussing a last ditch effort. Sounds like we heard they flew to Phx. Ron, has told us out west they are going to Reno. Out West we despise the fact we don't get priviledge to BCBS insurance for 2008. Because NO contract was settled with the TA single parents/ spouse plus employee/ part time can be covered. We had to BITE! on the UHC. Our union needs BALLS! We are done with NEGOTIATION! West gets compensated. Or! We take action.
Status quo is what you have. Unfortantely, the I Am Management union is your company's bed partner and is the 'freind with benefits' for your lovely company. The choice is clear, you keep status quo or you sign an IBEW card for representation that is not shackled with United airline board of director employees. As aside, Boss Canale's love letter is very weak and a full Q & A for IBEW will be posted on a webpage, hopefully by Tomorrow night.

regards,
 
any updates on how the west received the IBEW .,,, just curious

also the boys meeting in reno .. they are there for convention... only priviledged few get to attend..
 
RODGER has the IAM by the head now. It's all IBEW or nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
We have alot of IBEW support like DANNY in the bag chute , TRIG and KENNY M. GOOOO IBEW!!!!!!!!
 
orioleman-
I heard the IBEW was well recieved out West. I believe they formed a structure of a committee to
ask the PHX ramp for thier support in the card signings and the start of positive change. I know
that a represenitive from the IBEW flew into ORD this morning and had nothing but good reports
from that end. The IBEW will be in PHL, Wed. and Thur., and are flying out Fri. to other cities. The
IBEW is very excited at the oppourtunity to represent a strong work group. Remember ask questions.
The IBEW is not opposed to listening to the membership.


Thanks :up: :up:
 
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