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DIE with the OLD (IAM) or GROWwith the NEW (IBT)

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The membership should have voted no on the final offer and yes to strike and taken the company on.

But it did not happen and when a company can use the laws to screw everyone no worker will ever win.
 
Under the RLA you can't do roving pickets. That would be considered wildcats strikes which are illegal.

The only choice the members had was to accept or reject and strike.

The NLRA covers workers not in the transportation industry.

You are comparing apples to oranges.
 
Bob you can mark this on your calander because I think 700 and I are in agreement that the true strength of a union is in its membership.

But the union has to be held accountable for a failure to motivate the workforce to movement and unification. That is where they succeed or fail. This is one area of sucess for the Teamsters, because for all but a few individuals we are united as a group. This is our strength. Voting the same contract twice was a failure in leadership by the IAM unless the acceptance of the contract was what they truely wanted. And if that was thier goal then shame on them for selling out the membership and shame on the membership for letting it happen.
 
prove it...we think you're a blonde.... :lol:
just kiddin' AW..... 😉
Oh dear Dell....you crack me up. I wasn't talking them marbles. 😉 And no, I'm not blonde.........kind of gray but will take care of that at the hairdressers. But I could be a blonde.....if you want me to. 🙄
 
Guess you don't like the truth.
On the contrary. I like the truth very much.
No, AWA didn't have as much as you on the east gave up/was taken away. And I don't think it's right that a company uses the laws to their benefit while screwing over the employees that have made and kept that company running. But that's in the past. Times have changed and neither you, I or the unions have the power to change that in any significant way. Every company is going to use the laws to their advantage.
 
A real union would not let a company outsource all your overhaul.

A real union would have been able to bring overhaul back in-house for the past ten years.

A real airline has widebodies and flies to international destinations in Europe.
A real union also wouldn't let members do struck work like the IAM endorsed doing at NWA :down:
 
The work was all ready being done at the non-mtc stations, the language is in their contract to perform it and the langauge is no longer in the mechanics workrules.

I don't condone it being done, but what if the work was refused and the employee was fired for insubordination?
 
Oh dear Dell....you crack me up. I wasn't talking them marbles. 😉 And no, I'm not blonde.........kind of gray but will take care of that at the hairdressers. But I could be a blonde.....if you want me to. 🙄
just playin' AW...just playin... :lol:
 
Actually I think you can. If you have the testosterone! Check this snippet out. I'll provide the link for the rest of the story.
bob....i feel the position you portray but .....is it relevant to neg's under RLA?
 
If you play the game inside the confines of RLA you're sunk! Just my opinion as I'm not real knowledgable on RLA.
actually....RLA is the confines of which all will be subject...
bob, sands is calling me for a rematch....we must get together.....next time we're in the neighborhood...
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The work was all ready being done at the non-mtc stations, the language is in their contract to perform it and the langauge is no longer in the mechanics workrules.

I don't condone it being done, but what if the work was refused and the employee was fired for insubordination?
Being the true union man you are it should outrage you! The IAM should have been made to do it not willingly agree to it, but they would rather use membership dues on conventions in Vegas, and donating to politicians who don't help them, than to say that is struck work and our members will not perform it, make the judge tell us to do it!
 
You are not permitted wildcat strikes under the RLA, you can only strike when you are in section 6 negotiations the the NMB releases you into a 30 day cooling off period, only if the President does not step in and extend for 60 more day by creating a PEB.

The only other way to strike which has not been tested is after an abrogation.

And to fanlube it is illegal to use dues money to politicians, the MNPL was created for that which members voluntarily donate money to the PAC.
 
It is illegal to use dues money to politicians, Only if you get caught.
Ck the back door and see if it is locked lol.
 
The work was all ready being done at the non-mtc stations, the language is in their contract to perform it and the langauge is no longer in the mechanics workrules.

I don't condone it being done, but what if the work was refused and the employee was fired for insubordination?

Your just too funny there mr 7, we as mechanics ( oops not you mr stores clerk) have the right to refuse to do any work we do not feel comfortable doing and when NWA mechanics went on stike we were the contract mx contract for them in phx they called us to come work their a/c and we as a group told them we would not work their planes we would not cross the line and we still won't they can have those scabs fly out and fix them. our sups and mngrs support us and told them that. so don't come on with that crap about what thier contract allows that company made the bed now they have to live with it. we support the real nwa techs on the west side and I hope the east techs do also.
 
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