2015 Fleet Service thread
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Tim Nelson
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12 Egos. It's just that simple. 14 months is long enough to prioritize a comprehensive proposal. I don't know specifically which articles are the holdup as both unions have different preferences along some things, but if I hear "We are taking the best from both" one more time, I'm going to barf. What does that mean? Industry bottom in everything? The TWU contract is deplorable and really just a take it or leave it company policy by Horton. There isn't one thing in that awful rag that anyone could possibly want, especially given that it is so far inferior to even what non union folks currently enjoy. And the IAM contract, while better, is far far obsolete now that the industry has advanced so much farther.
We arent' talking 2% pay raises that we are foregoing while they get their crap together, we are talking $5 pay raises. So, with such a very very good wage, among everything else with the first contract for LAA ticket agents, we need to resolve this bicker between two unions and have some smarts to know how to get to the negotiation table. And I hope these same differences dont' resurface in negotiations.
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bob@las-AA
Veteran
Tater Salad said:
All the cult-like union loyalist have been spewing this pea soup colored puke for decades to bring all the kool-aide drinkers to what we have today, so I've been told by veterans with 30 years plus. So now you, just blow into town looking for upvotes, good luck "spud", your party will soon run out of food and beer, the guest will go home hungry and thirsty. Vote for money.
Tim Nelson
Veteran
It appears that they may need a mediator or facilitator to help them with their intra-union Association stalemate. Preferably someone from the AFLCIO. If they can resolve things this week and schedule sessions with management, then imo they are still in position to get us all the gains other airline employees have received before the train leaves the station.
regards,
Tim Nelson
Veteran
where did you read this? The IAM has conferences coming up in November before the holiday season, so if they can't resolve anything now then it appears January may be the earliest.
regards,
bob@las-AA
Veteran
If we run the number your way this is what we get.DallasConehead said:
Base FSC Rate : $23
Parker Raise 4% : $23.92
Indust True Up 4.7413% : $25.05
Delta + 7% : $27.35 {Delta was at $25.56, based from what I see on this forum}
Now Parker is offering Delta + 3, and that is after Delta announced a 14.5% raise across the board.
So from what I understand Parker recalculated after the announcement because just 3% above DL is far better than all the past percentages added up.
Would you like $27.35 or $29.27
I will admit to this, what I thought was rumor, is now a very real possibility, Delta + 3 is real, and not an enigma.
bob@las-AA
Veteran
Most have since 1948, you can't win the fight with the corporate or financial world we live in now, it was a very different landscape back then. And to add to the union's woes, deregulation and low-cost carriers. Best of luck.Tater Salad said:
bob@las-AA
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Most will advocate "SAVE JOBS", but if saving jobs is responsible for lower wages then NO.Tater Salad said:
Others have said voting on lower wages to save jobs but only to have the company take them anyways was a mistake.
I dont think most advocate save jobs thats the union pushing to save their dues revenue. I'd be curious if any union official took a pay cut when we did. That would be true unionism but I doubt it. In my opinion it is foolish to dilute a good paying job and turn it into crap. Im not going down with the ship im going for a lifeboat and dont get in my waybob@las-AA said:
