2015 Fleet Service thread

[Albert]

Go ahead, and you will be terminated, Dues are a condition of employment.

Would I get terminated if I walked into  the Jetblue or Delta breakroom and tell them they would be crazy to join the IAM?

 

[700UW]

Get in trouble for being out if your work area.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Can Charlie Brown answer the rumor that the IAM allowed the former non union clp workers in the mix with American eagle seniority doh? I have no idea but a few CLP agents are saying that the IAM cut a deal with the company to give CLP an increased moving package, and in return recognize American eagle DOH seniority into CLP for the previous non represented workers. If true, this should very much concern all of us because any CLP worker could transfer to the ramp and keep the same DOH American eagle seniority.

This is either a nasty rumor from CLP agents or a complete and utter hatchet job by the IAM recognizing eagle seniority for DOH purposes with that group.

regards,

 

[AANOTOK]

CLP?

 

[Albert]

CLP?

Central load planning

 

[AANOTOK]

Thanks...foreign to AA

 

[Tim Nelson]

Central load planning

according to a few CLP IAM members, the IAM engaged into a letter of agreement to enhance moving cost, etc, in the Pittsburgh breakup that moved CLP to DFW. The LAA CLP are non union peeps but the NMB ruled that CLP falls under the Association grasp. The secret agreement [IAM calls these LOA's "Letters of Agreement"] apparently gave management the ok to include the non union peeps into the roster by recognizing all American Eagle time as well. Note, this is a ramp function where someone from CLP can bid to the ramp or any station as well. The problem, if the IAM agreed to this, is that it disenfranchises hundreds or thousands of IAM members who were never allowed to recognize their true DOH. The question seems to be if the IAM agreed to the recognition of Eagle DOH or if this is being done without an agreement, in which case the IAM ought to grieve it.

regards,

 

[AANOTOK]

Since DFW is TWU, wouldn't they have a say in it?

 

[Albert]

according to a few CLP IAM members, the IAM engaged into a letter of agreement to enhance moving cost, etc, in the Pittsburgh breakup that moved CLP to DFW. The LAA CLP are non union peeps but the NMB ruled that CLP falls under the Association grasp. The secret agreement [IAM calls these LOA's "Letters of Agreement"] apparently gave management the ok to include the non union peeps into the roster by recognizing all American Eagle time as well. Note, this is a ramp function where someone from CLP can bid to the ramp or any station as well. The problem, if the IAM agreed to this, is that it disenfranchises hundreds or thousands of IAM members who were never allowed to recognize their true DOH. The question seems to be if the IAM agreed to the recognition of Eagle DOH or if this is being done without an agreement, in which case the IAM ought to grieve it.

regards,

If you are saying they gave them their eagle time. What about all the people that flowed from Eagle to AA.  If this is true they are opening up a can of worms

 

[Albert]

Since DFW is TWU, wouldn't they have a say in it?

If an Eagle agent gets hired  on at mainline  ticket counter  they carry their Eagle time?

 

[Tim Nelson]

If you are saying they gave them their eagle time. What about all the people that flowed from Eagle to AA.  If this is true they are opening up a can of worms

I agree.

regards,

 

[Tim Nelson]

Since DFW is TWU, wouldn't they have a say in it?

I'm not sure if the Association was involved with this or the IAM. Not sure. Assuming the CLP agents are correct about this.

regards,

 

[700UW]

There is no secret agreement, it was announced a long time ago about the enhanced move package and details were posted

 

[Albert]

There is no secret agreement, it was announced a long time ago about the enhanced move package and details were posted

Whats the agreement? Is what Tim is hearing correct?

 

[Jester]

Can Charlie Brown answer the rumor that the IAM allowed the former non union clp workers in the mix with American eagle seniority doh? I have no idea but a few CLP agents are saying that the IAM cut a deal with the company to give CLP an increased moving package, and in return recognize American eagle DOH seniority into CLP for the previous non represented workers. If true, this should very much concern all of us because any CLP worker could transfer to the ramp and keep the same DOH American eagle seniority.

This is either a nasty rumor from CLP agents or a complete and utter hatchet job by the IAM recognizing eagle seniority for DOH purposes with that group.

regards,

 
I know in PHX we have, at least, one person in Ops who was downgraded to the ramp with the merger between US and AW, and kept all his seniority which is pretty close to 20 years, and I don't think he paid any union dues during most of that time.  So something like what you described wouldn't be the first time.