2015 Pilot Discussion.

[lineguy43]

It looks like it was a windshear encounter/microburst.

"Over the weekend, an agency spokesman said the FAA was investigating, adding that the cockpit crew reported that shortly before touchdown the twin-engine, single-aisle aircraft experienced a wind shear sometimes referred to as a microburstwhich can cause a sudden and violent shift in wind direction relatively close to the ground."

"The Airbus A321 en route from Atlanta with 159 people aboard smashed into several approach and runway lights Saturday night, climbed away from the strip and then landed safely on a second attempt, according to the Federal Aviation Administration. There were no injuries, but the event has prompted scrutiny from government and industry safety experts."

"Crews also must comply with safety rules at individual airlines, mandating landing pilots to execute a go-around if their planes arent stabilized during the final phases of the approach with the proper speed, altitude and orientation relative to the ground."

http://www.wsj.com/articles/federal-officials-probe-american-jet-that-touched-down-short-of-charlotte-runway-1439864693

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I think this is the flight in question. Article doesnt mention actual flight number only origin and destination as you can see there is a cell right on the airport and it would also explain the go around.
 
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE1851/history/20150815/2150Z/KATL/KCLT

 

[nycbusdriver]

I'm pretty sure that's not actual scripture.

Here are some actual proclimations:

"These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

A proud look, a LYING tongue, and hands that she'd innocent blood,

A heart that deviseth WICKED IMAGINATIONS, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

A false witness thst speaketh LIES, and he that so we the discord among brethern."

Am I guilty of some of this? Perhaps. How about you, Luvr?

 
Who said it was scripture?
 
No matter who said it, they obviously foresaw the AOL.

 

[Claxon]

Who said it was scripture?
 
No matter who said it, they obviously foresaw the AOL.

Dave the lying PHX rep about to be smited by God...

 

[Claxon]

http://youtu.be/h2Xx-FXjdC4

 

[luvthe9]

Dave the lying PHX rep about to be smited by God...

Dave is the wests biggest liar, he lied to the west pilots and that he's cost them dearly.

 

[CactusPilot1]

Sorry the NTSB has yet to issue its final ruling as to the cause.  HOWEVER, You are still a SB that attacks the Profession that feeds you and your family.   Not once have I read about you making statements about other carrier pilots making errors during incidents.  YOU WERE NOT in the cockpit and have no clue as to what went thru their minds at that moment.  No matter who flew the GD aircraft Saturday West/East or any other carrier, they experienced a Once in a Lifetime Event and Everyone walked away.   One hell of a job by that crew....  

 
Snap is defending the profession against those SB's attacking the careers of pilots who brought jobs to the acquisition in 2005.
 
Get a clue.
 

 

[FL430]

Snap is defending the profession against those SB's attacking the careers of pilots who brought jobs to the acquisition in 2005.
 
Get a clue.

Snap is not defending the profession at all, he is simply defending his inflated west ego. And since you like to erroneously use the word acquisition, you should have learned at an early age there are some things you can acquire that aren't necessarily a good thing. That hot little thing in high school that gave you a good case of the clap comes to mind.
Go write another fishbowl letter.

 

[luvthe9]

Snap is defending the profession against those SB's attacking the careers of pilots who brought jobs to the acquisition in 2005.
 
Get a clue.

"The AAA pilots brought 2/3 of the jobs to the merger, 75% of the future attrition and 100% of the premium paying jobs, yet in the middle of 2027 there are only 5 of the top 100 pilots on the merged list from the former AAA list. That is, "our attrition a"





"Footnote: Acquired America West Holdings (2004 rank: 678), Sept. 27, 2005. For accounting purposes, however, the company is treating America West as the acquirer."



You shouldn't even be here now, Project Zanzibar. We saved you,




Get a clue!

 

[cactusboy53]

Dave is the wests biggest liar, he lied to the west pilots and that he's cost them dearly.

Ooh look! A complete FABRICATION (LIE), smothered in utter desperation. Yummy. What's for desert, Luvr?

 

[cactusboy53]

You shouldn't even be here now, Project Zanzibar. We saved you,
Get a clue!

Everybody that believes that, please stand on your head. Keep clickin them heels, Dorothy.

 

[luvthe9]

Everybody that believes that, please stand on your head. Keep clickin them heels, Dorothy.

Look around everyone's on their head clickin them heels



Big smiles boy

 

[luvthe9]

Dave, you are in charge of cleaning the fishbowl today, try not to screw it up.

 

[luvthe9]

. What's for desert, Luvr?

Fried fish

 

[luvthe9]

Everybody that believes that, please stand on your head. Keep clickin them heels, Dorothy.

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Project Zanzibar

"At the May 9 session of the Joint Negotiating Committee, Scott Kirby, President of the Company, revealed to the assembled representatives of both pilot groups and ALPA National that he had headed a project code-named Project Zanzibar for AW in 2005 and that the legal papers for a Chapter 11 filing had been prepared and a plan developed for AWs bankruptcy in the event that the merger failed to come to fruition. Project Zanzibar was AWs only Plan B. It is now beyond dispute that the junior AW pilot, Dave Odell, and 300-400 other AW F/Os hired in 2002-05 would have been furloughed absent the US merger, as AW went into Chapter 11, perhaps never to emerge. In light of this new disclosure from the carriers President, there is clearly no support for the explicit premise of the Nicolau Award that these AW pilots had more job security and better promotional prospects than US pilots hired in 1988, including hundreds who had never been furloughed for a single day."





So Dave now you are calling Kirby a liar, you should seek help flounder

 

[cactusboy53]

[SIZE=12pt]“…The Arbitration Board conducts an evidentiary hearing, with witnesses, evidence and a stenographic transcript. The Board’s Opinion and Award are to be issued simultaneously, within 150 days following the PID, unless both pilot groups and ALPA’s President agree to an extension. The Merger Policy provides, “The Award of the Arbitration Board shall be final and binding on all parties to the arbitration and shall be defended by ALPA.” No ALPA seniority integration arbitration result has ever been set aside by the courts although some dissatisfied pilots have challenged the award before administrative agencies and the courts.”[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]US Airwaves June/July 2000[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]US Air Merger Committee Members: Todd Cardoza (PIT), Mike Cleary (BOS),Randy Mowery (PIT)[/SIZE]
 
EVERYBODY gets it, except for you Boo.