2015 Pilot Discussion.

[cactusboy53]

I missed nothing sir.  Gregory is mis informed, hence he mis informs.

 
My baseball reference was made in regard to identity.  I really don't think you know who "Gregory" is. 
 
BTW....Who are you Ace?  Care to help us out.  Rankin? Cleary? King?

 

[cactusboy53]

An oldie, but a goodie:
 
[SIZE=12pt]THE COURT: The record will show the presence of the jury, counsel.  Will the foreperson please tell us whether the jury has unanimously reached a verdict.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]JURY FOREPERSON: We have, Your Honor.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]THE COURT: And will you please hand it to the clerk.  All right. And will the clerk please read and record the verdict?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]THE COURTROOM DEPUTY: Omitting the caption, we the jury, duly empaneled and sworn in the above-entitled matter, find as follows: On the plaintiff class's claim for breach of duty of fair representation against defendant USAPA, in favor of plaintiffs.[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]Don Addington, et al.,Plaintiffs, vs. US Airline Pilots Association, et al., Defendants.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Jury Trial, Day 11 – VERDICT[/SIZE]

 
I recall that decision only taking about 90 minutes for the jury.  Truth is a funny thing.

 

[cactusboy53]

[SIZE=12pt]The National Mediation Board on the subject of contract continuity:[/SIZE]
 

[SIZE=12pt]"When there is an agreement in effect between a carrier and its employees signed by one set of representatives and employees choose new representatives who are certified by the Board, the Board has taken the position that a change in representation does NOT ALTER OR CANCEL ANY EXISTING AGREEMENT [/SIZE]made on behalf of the employees by the previous representatives.  The only effect of a certification by the Board is that the employees have chosen other agents to represent them in dealing with the management under the existing agreement”

 

[Phoenix]

Clax hit the bulls eye. The hornets are going apoplectic without a target.

 

[cactusboy53]

"DANGEROUS GROUND" -------LAND HO! ??!!!?? OH CRAP! WE'VE RUN AGROUND!
 
[SIZE=12pt]“Of course, in negotiating for a particular seniority regime, USAPA must not breach its duty of fair representation. Accordingly, if USAPA wishes to abandon the Nicolau Award and accept the consequences of this course of action, it is free to do so.  By discarding the result of a valid arbitration and negotiating for a different seniority regime, USAPA is running the risk that it will be sued by the disadvantaged pilots when the new collective bargaining agreement is finalized. An impartial arbitrator’s decision regarding an appropriate method of seniority integration is powerful evidence of a fair result. Discarding the Nicolau Award places USAPA on dangerous ground.”[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]Judge Roslyn O. Silver, Chief United States District Judge[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]No. CV-10-01570-PHX-ROS ORDER; October 11, 2012[/SIZE]

 

[cactusboy53]

Clax hit the bulls eye. The hornets are going apoplectic without a target.

 
Oooh. That hurt. 

• No target:  NOPE (USAPA and any other party - see rule 65, Ace).
• "apoplectic" (dictionary - I had to make sure of the definition: overcome with anger; extremely indignant).  NOPE. Not angry.  Satisfied that USAPA is publicly shown for exactly what it is & was.  Satisfied that in part we will recover some of the funds that we personally had to spend to halt your DOH cram-down.  Satisfied that the new CBA inherits the OBLIGATION & understanda it's responsibility.  Satisfied that ALL the other parties at risk also understand the risks. 
• indignant:  NOPE.  It would seem to me that you boys are much higher on the indignant scale (perceived as unfair treatment vs. actually persecuted, prosecuted and attacked wrongfully).
• Target:  Yup.  SLI.  Proceeding as per the agreement.  You know.  That's a document that parties sign and promise to ABIDE BY.  You know.  Then the parties PARTICIPATE in that agreed upon event so as to reach a BINDING agreement.

You know what I do with hornets in MO?  I spray that insecticide until every single one of them is squirming on the ground in agony.  You in agony yet, Scotty?

 

[nevergiveup]

 
Oooh. That hurt. 

• No target:  NOPE (USAPA and any other party - see rule 65, Ace).
• "apoplectic" (dictionary - I had to make sure of the definition: overcome with anger; extremely indignant).  NOPE. Not angry.  Satisfied that USAPA is publicly shown for exactly what it is & was.  Satisfied that in part we will recover some of the funds that we personally had to spend to halt your DOH cram-down.  Satisfied that the new CBA inherits the OBLIGATION & understanda it's responsibility.  Satisfied that ALL the other parties at risk also understand the risks. 
• indignant:  NOPE.  It would seem to me that you boys are much higher on the indignant scale (perceived as unfair treatment vs. actually persecuted, prosecuted and attacked wrongfully).
• Target:  Yup.  SLI.  Proceeding as per the agreement.  You know.  That's a document that parties sign and promise to ABIDE BY.  You know.  Then the parties PARTICIPATE in that agreed upon event so as to reach a BINDING agreement.

You know what I do with hornets in MO?  I spray that insecticide until every single one of them is squirming on the ground in agony.  You in agony yet, Scotty?

Do you think he has any friends?

 

[cactusboy53]

Do you think he has any friends?

Who? Scotty? Based on my interactions with him at the BPR, I'd say only entitled, INDIGNANT US Air pilots.

Dave

 

[nevergiveup]

Who? Scotty? Based on my interactions with him at the BPR, I'd say only entitled, INDIGNANT US Air pilots.

Dave

So why again can't the west pilots bid the east positions? 

 

[nic4us]

So why again can't the west pilots bid the east positions? 

 
Ask yourself...why can't the east pilots bid east positions?
 
The door slammed shut a month ago.  What is ironic is the east posters here are too stupid to realize it is they who are in a fishbowl, and the water is being siphoned out.

 

[nevergiveup]

 
Ask yourself...why can't the east pilots bid east positions?
 
The door slammed shut a month ago.  What is ironic is the east posters here are too stupid to realize it is they who are in a fishbowl, and the water is being siphoned out.

🙂 

 

[EastCheats]

USAPA Update: USAPA Car for Sale

Closed Bids will be accepted by USAPA members until 23:59 on Friday, September, 18, 2015

View attachment 11048

 

[Phoenix]

Oooh. That hurt. 

• No target:  NOPE (USAPA and any other party - see rule 65, Ace).
• "apoplectic" (dictionary - I had to make sure of the definition: overcome with anger; extremely indignant).  NOPE. Not angry.  Satisfied that USAPA is publicly shown for exactly what it is & was.  Satisfied that in part we will recover some of the funds that we personally had to spend to halt your DOH cram-down.  Satisfied that the new CBA inherits the OBLIGATION & understanda it's responsibility.  Satisfied that ALL the other parties at risk also understand the risks. 
• indignant:  NOPE.  It would seem to me that you boys are much higher on the indignant scale (perceived as unfair treatment vs. actually persecuted, prosecuted and attacked wrongfully).
• Target:  Yup.  SLI.  Proceeding as per the agreement.  You know.  That's a document that parties sign and promise to ABIDE BY.  You know.  Then the parties PARTICIPATE in that agreed upon event so as to reach a BINDING agreement.

You know what I do with hornets in MO?  I spray that insecticide until every single one of them is squirming on the ground in agony.  You in agony yet, Scotty?

You read my whole post and referenced a dictionary? Two things I didn't do with your post.

 

[luvthe9]

 
BTW....Who are you Ace?  Care to help us out.  Rankin? Cleary? King?

Your worst nightmare or maybe my alter ego, heck who knows, Big smiles!


Poor Davey boy melting down yet again!

 

[luvthe9]

The courts and the arbitrators "get it", agreed.

12” We decline to order the issuance of the West Pilots’ requested injunction
“that an unmodified Nicolau Award must be used to order the seniority of the East
and West pilots in the pending McCaskill-Bond process.”

9th Circuit Court of Appeals

“4 While enjoining the USAPA Merger Committee from participating in the McCaskill-
Bond seniority integration arbitration, except to the extent that it advocates the Nicolau
Award, the Addington majority recognized that, given the requirement of a ratification
vote by all pilots for any joint collective bargaining agreement, it was unclear whether the
Nicolau Award would have been implemented fully but for USAPA’s actions. Further,
the court expressly declined to order that an unmodified Nicolau Award be used to order
the seniority of the East and West pilots in the arbitration.”

Arbitration Panel