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 Recent west pilot merger committee update page:
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***NEXT SLI HEARING DAYS ARE OCT 12 - OCT 16 IN DCA***
 
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October 12th - 16th DCA Week 2 SLI Hearing Transcripts
(links will be active when they are available)
 
Monday, October 12th (day 1)
 
Tuesday, October 13th (day 2)
 
Wednesday, October 14th (day 3)
 
Thursday, October 15th (day 4)
 
Friday, October 16th (day 5)
 
SARCASM by Claxon addition below;
 
(Our west pilot star attorney Freund,  informed the MB Seniority List Integration Board of Arbitration that we are not bound by their decision.  We are just going to show up anyways and act surprised, insulted and victimized (our usual MO) when we are ordered to void or get off the potty.)
 
Claxon said:
When a party to the process says they are not bound by the agreement, which would allow the arbitrators to "sort this out", it is too much to ask. 
 
 
Whether we're bound by the agreement or not, frankly, is not for me to say.”
Mr. Jeff Freund, attorney for the west pilots quote and comment to the MB SLI BOA
Ha! Even Seham sees how poorly the East committee did. Obviously desperate. Please PLEASE tell me the $esham is advising the East committee to walk out (again...for the 3rd time) if their list of demands isn't met.
 
Get ready west pilots. Your fishbowl experience will need this in order for you to survive possibly 2 more years in the FISHBOWL

http://youtu.be/Lb9p9bejpa8
 
EastCheats said:
Why does he work over USAPA if he's doing fine?

Former pilot union president sues over vacation time

By Ely Portillo
elyportillo@charlotteobserver.com
Posted: Tuesday, May. 27, 2014
The former president of the Charlotte-based union that represents US Airways pilots filed a lawsuit Tuesday against the union, claiming he was unfairly cheated out of payment for almost 100 unused vacation days he accrued.
Michael Cleary, a pilot, headed the U.S. Airline Pilots Association from 2008 to 2012. He was a fierce opponent of US Airways and led a high-profile safety campaign in 2011 that the company claimed was in fact a secret work slowdown.
The union charged that US Airways was skirting safety requirements, but a federal judge in Charlotte sided with the company and issued an injunction ordering pilots to stop the slowdown.
In his lawsuit, Cleary claimed he worked seven days a week for the union for most of his four-year term and took only seven paid days off during that time. He worked on those seven days he took off as well, Cleary said.
Mike routinely worked seven days a week. He had no choice because there was work to be done and, in the beginning, few employees to do it, wrote Clearys attorney, Josh Van Kampen. Weekends off were nonexistent, and Mike had virtually no chance to use the vacation he was accruing.
A spokesman for USAPA said the union hadnt received a copy of Clearys lawsuit Tuesday and had no comment.
When Cleary left USAPA in 2012, he said in his lawsuit that he was paid for only 21 days of vacation time, not the nearly 100 days he had accrued. According to the lawsuit, the unions treasurer had assured Cleary that he would receive payment for all of his accrued vacation time.
Although Cleary was a pilot for US Airways at the same time he served as USAPAs president, he only flew the bare minimum necessary to maintain certification. The union paid Cleary all of his wages and benefits, according to the lawsuit. Van Kampen declined to say exactly how much money Cleary is seeking from USAPA.
The union is in the early stages of integrating with the Allied Pilots Association, which represents American Airlines pilots, after that companys merger with US Airways in December. For years, USAPA has been bitterly divided over pilot seniority stemming from the 2005 merger of America West and US Airways.
Integrating the pilot work groups seamlessly is seen as an important step for the American-US Airways merger to succeed.

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Thomas Westbrook · Westbrook High School (Maine)
He is so worried about his vacation time, but gives his employees of Planet Fitness of Maine none. Selfish person .very two face. deserve's nothing

There is a Mike Cleary who owns Planet Fitness in Maine? Let's investigate:
Here's one:

Granite Coast Properties LLC
8 Thomas Dr
Westbrook, ME 04092

Contact: Michael Cleary
Title: Managing Member
Website:
www.planetfitness.com

http://www.buzzfile.com/business/Planet-Fitness-207-773-7774

I never join a club without checking them out on the BBB.

Subject: fitness
Planet Fitness
8 thomas drive, Westbrook, ME 04092 http://planetfitness.com

BBB® F Rating (that leaves room for improvement)

http://www.bbb.org/boston/business-reviews/health-clubs/planet-fitness-in-westbrook-me-138015

I guess there are a lot of Mike Cleary's. It couldn't be him. He could not be working those long hours at the union, could he?
 
If someone would spend a little less time on the message boards, maybe he'd do a better job running a business.
 
Has the BBB rating improved since January, Mike? 😉
 
 
Claxon said:
Get ready west pilots. Your fishbowl experience will need this in order for you to survive possibly 2 more years in the FISHBOWL

http://youtu.be/Lb9p9bejpa8
She's hot!  En fuego!  
 
Seham charged those MDA idiots over 60 Grand to write that poorly written, non-proofread sheet of toilet paper. HAAAAAA!!!
 
If I'm not mistaken, the Non PA party West Group has already begun presenting their crystal clear case to the BOA. Seham...effective as ever! :lol:
 
Res Judicata said:
Seham charged those MDA idiots over 60 Grand to write that poorly written, non-proofread sheet of toilet paper. HAAAAAA!!!
 
If I'm not mistaken, the Non PA party West Group has already begun presenting their crystal clear case to the BOA. Seham...effective as ever! :lol:
USAPA (and all its agents) are under an injunction. You approve of that do you not?

Do you suppose it is a hard question of whether or not APA (and all its agents) are bound by their contract?

You have been living in interesting times. (I.E. Seham cost you millions and you take solice he charged someone 60k, if it's even true. What may Seham cost you this time?)
 
Phoenix said:
USAPA (and all its agents) are under an injunction. You approve of that do you not?

Do you suppose it is a hard question of whether or not APA (and all its agents) are bound by their contract?

You have been living in interesting times. (I.E. Seham cost you millions and you take solice he charged someone 60k, if it's even true. What may Seham cost you this time?)
Seham cost EVERYONE millions. What might he cost you this time?
 
Res Judicata said:
Seham cost EVERYONE millions. What might he cost you this time?
He's not on my payroll. Are you suggesting the APA is sure to lose if they don't comply with their contract, and everyone's dues will go up to pay? 😀

P.S. "Bad faith" in a contract has a far different standard of proof than does "DFR".
 
Phoenix said:
He's not on my payroll. Are you suggesting the APA is sure to lose if they don't comply with their contract, and everyone's dues will go up to pay? 😀

P.S. "Bad faith" in a contract has a far different standard of proof than does "DFR".
Remember LOA93? The Bradford/Seham team kept you on Mesa Wages for an additional 5 years. He wasn't "on" your payroll, he "was" your payroll. :lol: After that Seham stole two million from USCABA and left.
 
The West Mopped the floor with you while held to the impossibly high DFR Standard. If the West only had to prove Bad Faith by the East, it'd be a bloodbath. Suffice it to say, East Pilots Bad Faith has been documented to the Nth degree and there isn't the slightest sliver of doubt in the BOA room regarding it.
 
Res Judicata said:
Remember LOA93? The Bradford/Seham team kept you on Mesa Wages for an additional 5 years. He wasn't "on" your payroll, he "was" your payroll. :lol: After that Seham stole two million from USCABA and left.
 
The West Mopped the floor with you while held to the impossibly high DFR Standard. If the West only had to prove Bad Faith by the East, it'd be a bloodbath. Suffice it to say, East Pilots Bad Faith has been documented to the Nth degree and there isn't the slightest sliver of doubt in the BOA room regarding it.
You should focus. It helps when trying to make a point. How many FOs upgraded on account of Seham? How many were West FOs? (Since you like history)

Back to the present... Contract enforcement is a far different animal than fair representation whining.

Interesting times.
 
Res Judicata said:
Remember LOA93? The Bradford/Seham team kept you on Mesa Wages for an additional 5 years. He wasn't "on" your payroll, he "was" your payroll. :lol: After that Seham stole two million from USCABA and left.
 
The West Mopped the floor with you while held to the impossibly high DFR Standard. If the West only had to prove Bad Faith by the East, it'd be a bloodbath. Suffice it to say, East Pilots Bad Faith has been documented to the Nth degree and there isn't the slightest sliver of doubt in the BOA room regarding it.
 
It's been a pleasure helping to get rid of the mob known as USAPA. Scumbags.
 
 
Res Judicata said:
Seham charged those MDA idiots over 60 Grand to write that poorly written, non-proofread sheet of toilet paper. HAAAAAA!!!
 
If I'm not mistaken, the Non PA party West Group has already begun presenting their crystal clear case to the BOA. Seham...effective as ever! :lol:
The fish in the bowl angrily swim in circles, constrained by cruel glass....
 
Phoenix said:
How many FOs upgraded on account of Seham? 
 
Some people go to work to make as much money in as fewest days possible,  others go to work to watch F/O's grade.  😀
 
You girls ready to lose another arbitration???    😱
 
"It's not fair" is not an argument worth much.  Tried before and failed.  When is the east capable of a new thought (or argument).  But when you got nuttin' else to use, I guess you're screwed either way!  LOL
 
I think round 2 is better than the first one.
 
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