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Metroyet said:
Nice work Perry Mason. All of that and yet USAPA is still dead, irrelevent and laughed at. If I were you, I'd brush up on personal Bankruptcy law. Those Liberty Ties are going to be financial nooses around the Necks of the Scab13. Count on it.
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Res Judicata said:
That's because you're an unqualified idiot. Your FBA head Scabs can't touch a dime of former union dues to defend themselves. AOL takes in 75-100k a month via Paypal. I have every confidence AOL will slowly grind those POS A-Holes into the ground for the next few years until they are destitute. Go find your checkbook Easthole, I know of 13 scabs that are going  to come begging for money from you in short order.
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CactusPilot1 said:
You sound like a good union, correction, company pilot.
 
If you wish to support and defend intentionally falsifying aircraft log books, then you're neither a "good" pilot, nor likely "good" for much of anything else, for that matter.
 
luvthe9 said:
It's over and the company knows who it was, can't wait to hear his defense.
 
I can't imagine ANY possible "defense" for that. I've even some reservations about "But!, But!, I was just trying to be cute!" affording much cover there. What a sorry, needless and truly pathetic business indeed, and one which reflects badly on all pilots.
 
nycbusdriver said:
 
I doubt they considered DNA evidence, but since you work closely with those drooling idiot "pyluts" in PHX maybe they should check for DNA evidence.
 
A fair point and reasonable consideration that, in at least so far as their "army" of "knights" and "spartans" is concerend anyway.
 
CactusPilot1 said:
I would not count on it. If you want DNA evidence, look for a blue dress worn by Monica Lewinsky.
 
Well Monica; for just a moment's sake of argument, and only, ahem, "assuming" the log book "cuteness" was indeed one of your "integrity" and "valor"-drenched "soldier's/knight's" doings: What do you believe an appropriate company and/or FAA response should honestly be? Yes, that's an intended test of character, so don't choke to death just on the "honestly" part before at least attempting some thought on the matter.
 
Perhaps the involved individual should just be universally honored and rewarded with another "Integrity Matters" T-shirt, a free "liberty" tie or two, and some additional cactus "bling" of course?
 
CactusPilot1 said:
The APA should make sure they dot their i's and cross their t's prior when dealing with Usapians otherwise, they will be wasting their time.
Take note, APA. Your binding arbitration may have a so-called binding arbitration clause as well.
AOL has known from the beginning that DFR and arbitration were never the issue. It was always a contract issue, but AOL knew the average high school graduate or associates degree pilot would be emotionally exploitable.. easily duped by implicit assumptions.

APA pilots are not so gullible, but they appreciate the sincere attempts at "advice" ... from a group that has pigeonholed themselves into furloughs, stagnation, cheap ties, and monthly PayPal donations to perpetuate the same.

E. F. Hutton, AOL is not.
 
nycbusdriver said:
I doubt they considered DNA evidence, but since you work closely with those drooling idiot "pyluts" in PHX maybe they should check for DNA evidence.
Want to compare body counts and hull losses since 1983? :lol: didn't think so you arrogant scab.
 
Metroyet said:
Want to compare body counts and hull losses since 1983? :lol: didn't think so you arrogant scab.
Do you think APA will be using your "hull losses strategy" too? 😉
 
Q=William Wilder  Attorney for USAPA
 
A=Russel Payne   america west pilot merger committee
 
 
Q. What was required for there to be an
18 operational pilot integration?

19 A. There had to be a completion of the
20 integrated pilot seniority list, a negotiated single
21 agreement
, contract, and the FAA operating
22 certificate.

Q. So is it fair to say that your
2 understanding was that, whatever the results of the
3 Nicolau Award might be, that that seniority list

4 could not be utilized by US Airways until there was
5 a joint collective bargaining agreement negotiated?


6 A. That's correct.

BY MR. WILDER:
10 Q. Captain Payne, the process for selection
11 of this West Merger Committee, you indicated it was
12 class representatives who selected the members. Is
13 that right?

14 A. That's correct.
15 Q. Do you know how they did that?

16 A. No. As far as...

17 Q. How they picked the names that they
18 picked, what process they used.
19 Did they solicit input from the pilots?
20 Hold an election? How did they pick them?

21 A. I don't know the exact process. I know we
22 were asked about it as members, but I don't know…..

Q. And those efforts culminated in a meeting
4 at Wye River in Maryland convened by ALPA National
5 at which the two MECs sent representatives?

6 A. Yes.

7 Q. And ALPA National attempted to conciliate
8 a resolution between the pilot groups?

9 A. Yes.

10 Q. Did the US Airways MEC have a settlement
11 proposal that it put forward to the West MEC?

12 A. Yes.

13 Q. Did the West MEC have a settlement
14 proposal that it gave the East MEC, the US Airways?

16 A. I don't recall whether -- there were some
17 discussions. I don't recall if there was a specific
18 proposal put forward.
 
 
Metroyet said:
Want to compare body counts and hull losses since 1983? :lol: ......
 
So "body counts" are (at least in your strange estimation) appropriate fodder for a laughing "smiley face"? What a truly "interesting" world view. Exactly how are lost lives and aircraft anywhere/anytime within commercial aviation at all "funny" to you? Did the recent Germanair tragedy leave you in stitches? Honest question here: Have you ever undergone any psychological screening and/or mental health evaluation of any kind? My guess is no.
 
As a proper warning to them; do be sure to run that by the folks at American though, especially accompanied by the "cute" little emoticon for best effect. I think I can fairly promise that you would equally make quite an an impression on them by doing so, albeit not your intended one.
 
Metroyet said:
Want to compare body counts and hull losses since 1983? :lol: didn't think so you arrogant scab.

Wow, psychological exam is in order........you are one sick dude!


One of the four Leonidas LLC directors is apparently now employed as an American Airlines pilot;\

Having Kevin Horner associated in any way with this DFR only hurts the effort. How can he adequately meet the fiduciary requirements to fairly represent the class? Our sources have told us that Kevin Horners current union, the APA, is furious with him for his participation in a DFR suit against another union.
 
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