IS that a FACT? What if the NMB votes AWA as the surviving airline? Or that usair was a aquisition? Hmmmm! :unsure:
FACT'S ONLY....
CONTRACT WORD FOR WORD FACT’S ONLY BY CONTRACT!
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FACT'S ONLY....
America West Airlines is a subsidary of the US Airways Group.
And the NMB does not rule on surviving airlines.
And answer this, if AWA would be the surviving airline why didn't the ibt file single carrier status then?
Don't let the facts get in your way.
And the NMB does not rule on surviving airlines.
And answer this, if AWA would be the surviving airline why didn't the ibt file single carrier status then?
Don't let the facts get in your way.
TEMPE, Ariz. (AP) — US Airways Group said its acquisition by America West.
US Airways was acquired by America West Holdings in September as part of its strategy to emerge from more than two years of Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. The combined company retained the US Airways name.
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NOTE: Two major operating subsidiaries US Airways,Inc and America West Airlines,Inc.
This is from SEC filing 12-01-05 “amendable datesâ€
Union disputes, employee strikes and other labor-related disruptions may adversely affect our operations.
Our business plan includes assumptions about labor costs going forward. Currently, the labor costs of both America West Holdings and US Airways Group are very competitive and very similar; however, we cannot assure you that labor costs going forward will remain competitive, either because our agreements may become amendable or because competitors may significantly reduce their labor costs. Approximately 78% of the employees within US Airways Group are represented for collective bargaining purposes by labor unions. In the United States, these employees are organized into nine labor groups represented by five different unions at US Airways, Inc., seven labor groups represented by four different unions at America West Airlines, Inc., four labor groups represented by four different unions at Piedmont Airlines, and four labor groups represented by four different unions at PSA Airlines. There are additional unionized groups of US Airways, Inc. employees abroad.
Relations between air carriers and labor unions in the United States are governed by the Railway Labor Act, or the RLA. Under the RLA, collective bargaining agreements generally contain “amendable dates†rather than expiration dates, and the RLA requires that a carrier maintain the existing terms and conditions of employment following the amendable date through a multi-stage and usually lengthy series of bargaining processes overseen by the National Mediation Board. This process continues until either the parties have reached agreement on a new collective bargaining agreement, or the parties have been released to “self-help†by the National Mediation Board. Although in most circumstances the RLA prohibits strikes, after release by the National Mediation Board carriers and unions are free to engage in self-help measures such as strikes and lock-outs. None of the US Airways, Inc. labor agreements becomes amendable until December 31, 2009. Of the America West Airlines, Inc. labor agreements, three are currently amendable, a fourth becomes amendable in 2006 and negotiations are proceeding with a fifth group for an initial collective bargaining agreement.
There is the potential for litigation to arise in the context of airline mergers. Unions may seek to delay or halt a transaction, may seek monetary damages, either in court or in grievance arbitration, may seek to compel airlines to engage in the bargaining processes where the airline believes it has no such obligation or may seek to assert rights to participate in corporate governance, including through board representation. There is a risk that one or more unions may pursue such judicial or arbitral avenues in the context of the merger, and if successful, could create additional costs that we did not anticipate. There is also a risk that disgruntled employees, either with or without union involvement, could engage in illegal slow-downs, work stoppages, partial work stoppages, sick-outs or other action short of a full strike that could individually or collectively harm the operation of the airline and impair its financial performance.
The Offering
This prospectus and the registration statement, of which it is a part, are being filed with the SEC to satisfy our obligations to the purchasers of the notes pursuant to a registration rights agreement, dated September 30, 2005, by and among US Airways Group, US Airways, Inc., America West Airlines, Inc. and Merrill, Lynch, Pierce, Fenner & Smith Incorporated, as the Initial Purchaser. This prospectus and the registration statement cover:
• The resale by selling securityholders of the notes; and
• The resale by selling securityholders of shares of common stock issuable upon conversion of the notes.
Investing in our securities involves risks. You should carefully consider the information under “Risk Factors†beginning on page 6 and the other information included in this prospectus before investing in our securities.
The Notes
The following is a brief summary of certain terms of the notes offered for resale in this prospectus. For a more complete description of the terms of the notes, see “Description of Notes†in this prospectus.
Issuer of Notes US Airways Group, Inc.
Notes Offered $143,750,000 million aggregate principal amount of senior convertible notes due 2020.
Maturity Date September 30, 2020.
Interest and Payment Dates 7% per year, payable semiannually in arrears in cash on March 30 and September 30 of each year, beginning March 30, 2006.
Guarantees The notes are fully and unconditionally guaranteed, jointly and severally and on a senior unsecured basis, by our two major operating subsidiaries, US Airways, Inc. and America West Airlines, Inc. The guarantees rank equally with all of the subsidiary guarantors’ existing and future unsecured indebtedness that is not by its terms expressly subordinated in right of payment to the guarantees and be effectively subordinated to the guarantors’ secured indebtedness to the extent of the value of assets securing such indebtedness.
Conversion Rights Holders may present their notes for conversion prior to the close of business on the second business day immediately preceding the stated maturity date based on the applicable conversion rate. The conversion rate is subject to adjustment as described in “Description of Notes — Adjustment of Conversion Rate.â€
This is from SEC filing 12-01-05 “amendable datesâ€
Union disputes, employee strikes and other labor-related disruptions may adversely affect our operations.
Our business plan includes assumptions about labor costs going forward. Currently, the labor costs of both America West Holdings and US Airways Group are very competitive and very similar; however, we cannot assure you that labor costs going forward will remain competitive, either because our agreements may become amendable or because competitors may significantly reduce their labor costs. Approximately 78% of the employees within US Airways Group are represented for collective bargaining purposes by labor unions. In the United States, these employees are organized into nine labor groups represented by five different unions at US Airways, Inc., seven labor groups represented by four different unions at America West Airlines, Inc., four labor groups represented by four different unions at Piedmont Airlines, and four labor groups represented by four different unions at PSA Airlines. There are additional unionized groups of US Airways, Inc. employees abroad.
Relations between air carriers and labor unions in the United States are governed by the Railway Labor Act, or the RLA. Under the RLA, collective bargaining agreements generally contain “amendable dates†rather than expiration dates, and the RLA requires that a carrier maintain the existing terms and conditions of employment following the amendable date through a multi-stage and usually lengthy series of bargaining processes overseen by the National Mediation Board. This process continues until either the parties have reached agreement on a new collective bargaining agreement, or the parties have been released to “self-help†by the National Mediation Board. Although in most circumstances the RLA prohibits strikes, after release by the National Mediation Board carriers and unions are free to engage in self-help measures such as strikes and lock-outs. None of the US Airways, Inc. labor agreements becomes amendable until December 31, 2009. Of the America West Airlines, Inc. labor agreements, three are currently amendable, a fourth becomes amendable in 2006 and negotiations are proceeding with a fifth group for an initial collective bargaining agreement.
There is the potential for litigation to arise in the context of airline mergers. Unions may seek to delay or halt a transaction, may seek monetary damages, either in court or in grievance arbitration, may seek to compel airlines to engage in the bargaining processes where the airline believes it has no such obligation or may seek to assert rights to participate in corporate governance, including through board representation. There is a risk that one or more unions may pursue such judicial or arbitral avenues in the context of the merger, and if successful, could create additional costs that we did not anticipate. There is also a risk that disgruntled employees, either with or without union involvement, could engage in illegal slow-downs, work stoppages, partial work stoppages, sick-outs or other action short of a full strike that could individually or collectively harm the operation of the airline and impair its financial performance.
The Offering
This prospectus and the registration statement, of which it is a part, are being filed with the SEC to satisfy our obligations to the purchasers of the notes pursuant to a registration rights agreement, dated September 30, 2005, by and among US Airways Group, US Airways, Inc., America West Airlines, Inc. and Merrill, Lynch, Pierce, Fenner & Smith Incorporated, as the Initial Purchaser. This prospectus and the registration statement cover:
• The resale by selling securityholders of the notes; and
• The resale by selling securityholders of shares of common stock issuable upon conversion of the notes.
Investing in our securities involves risks. You should carefully consider the information under “Risk Factors†beginning on page 6 and the other information included in this prospectus before investing in our securities.
The Notes
The following is a brief summary of certain terms of the notes offered for resale in this prospectus. For a more complete description of the terms of the notes, see “Description of Notes†in this prospectus.
Issuer of Notes US Airways Group, Inc.
Notes Offered $143,750,000 million aggregate principal amount of senior convertible notes due 2020.
Maturity Date September 30, 2020.
Interest and Payment Dates 7% per year, payable semiannually in arrears in cash on March 30 and September 30 of each year, beginning March 30, 2006.
Guarantees The notes are fully and unconditionally guaranteed, jointly and severally and on a senior unsecured basis, by our two major operating subsidiaries, US Airways, Inc. and America West Airlines, Inc. The guarantees rank equally with all of the subsidiary guarantors’ existing and future unsecured indebtedness that is not by its terms expressly subordinated in right of payment to the guarantees and be effectively subordinated to the guarantors’ secured indebtedness to the extent of the value of assets securing such indebtedness.
Conversion Rights Holders may present their notes for conversion prior to the close of business on the second business day immediately preceding the stated maturity date based on the applicable conversion rate. The conversion rate is subject to adjustment as described in “Description of Notes — Adjustment of Conversion Rate.â€
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WELL IBT SHOULD QUIT CROWING ABOUT GETTING IT REOPENED THEN.....YOU JUST ADMITTED IT, QUIT SPREADING THE LIE FOR VOTES PLAN :down: THE IBT CONTRACT YOU ARE NEGOTIATING NOW DOESN'T MATTER TO IAM UNTIL AFTER 2009- QUIT SPREADING THE LIE FOR VOTES PLAN
"contract words for words thread"
:blink: 
i couldn't have said it better myself!
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We all work for US Airways Group, Inc. LCC (THE NEW AIRLINE) US Airways THE NAME ONLY.WELL IBT SHOULD QUIT CROWING ABOUT GETTING IT REOPENED THEN.....YOU JUST ADMITTED IT, QUIT SPREADING THE LIE FOR VOTES PLAN :down: THE IBT CONTRACT YOU ARE NEGOTIATING NOW DOESN'T MATTER TO IAM UNTIL AFTER 2009- QUIT SPREADING THE LIE FOR VOTES PLAN
"contract words for words thread"
i couldn't have said it better myself!
I worked for America West Airlines, Inc as a TEAMSTER. You worked for US Airways, Inc. as IAM. We are both subsidiaries of the NEW AIRLINE. The KEY WORD is WORKED.
Parker and the boys in the glass house want that IAM contract to hold us at that pay till 12-31-2009 but if we go IBT he is not going to hold you down, what would he get from that? Over half of his MX work force MAD. And the Teamsters will fight for you to go under the new contract. ALL UNIONS WORK FOR DUES IAM IBT AMFA AND SO ON. The unions are a must or we all will be working for $17.00 hr. at Timco.
This is from SEC Filing 12-1-05
None of the US Airways, Inc. labor agreements becomes amendable until December 31, 2009 :down: . Of the America West Airlines, Inc. labor agreements, three are currently amendable
, a fourth becomes amendable in 2006 and negotiations are proceeding with a fifth group for an initial collective bargaining agreement. there you go again how many times does it have to be shown to you that awa is tr
he surviving airline they just kept the us airways name and we were told the reason the ibt didn't file is because you have the larger work force so we have to force a vote. it has nothing to do with who is the serviving airline its who's group is larger. so mr iam check your facts before you ramble on again. p.s. you never answered my question to you when i asked if you went to listen to Andy and ask him your questions you said nobody would answer for you!
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You dont get it. America west is a subsidary of the new US Airways Group you are still thinking US Airway Inc, Not The Same. The US Airways you use to work for does not excist. It is a name and the new investers
paid for the old name, and AWA is one of those investers.
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To read the SEC Filing
http://www.sec.gov/edgar.shtml
Search for company filings.
Company & other filers.
Type company name(US Airways Group).
go to S-3 HTML 2005-12-01.
HAVE A NICE DAY
GET YOUR CARDS IN
http://www.sec.gov/edgar.shtml
Search for company filings.
Company & other filers.
Type company name(US Airways Group).
go to S-3 HTML 2005-12-01.
HAVE A NICE DAY
GET YOUR CARDS IN
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NEW NEWS
Poll Predicts Majority Turnout for US Airways Union Vote
Pensions, Wages, Health Care and Outsourcing
Top Workers' List of Concerns
WASHINGTON, Dec. 2 /PRNewswire/ -- A late November poll of US Airways
mechanics, utility, GSE and stock clerks predicts majority turnout for a union
representation election -- a strong signal that the issue will go to a vote of
workers.
The telephone poll of a random sample of US Airways workers showed that 89
percent of workers polled planned to vote in a representation election. The
National Mediation Board requires that 50 percent plus one member of any
potential bargaining unit must vote for any union to ensure union
representation.
In the poll, workers rated issues of concern in their US Airways
workplace. Those issues included pensions, wages, health care costs and
outsourcing. Workers said their responses to the recent poll were driven by
concerns about the airline industry's trend toward outsourcing of work -- and
by misleading information generated by US Airways.
"No matter what US Airways or any other union may say, as soon as these
workers choose the Teamsters as their certified bargaining agent, we will
begin bargaining an amalgamated agreement from the two existing contracts.
That agreement will protect all the members' work," said Andy Marshall,
Secretary-Treasurer of Teamsters Local 104 in Phoenix. "The results of this
poll show us that we are one step closer to beginning that process."
Founded in 1903, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters represents
more than 1.4 million hardworking men and women throughout the United States
and Canada.
SOURCE International Brotherhood of Teamsters
Web Site: http://www.teamster.org
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Issuers of news releases and not PR Newswire are solely responsible for the accuracy of the content.
Terms and conditions, including restrictions on redistribution, apply.
Copyright © 1996-2005 PR Newswire Association LLC. All Rights Reserved.
A United Business Media company.
Get Your IBT Cards In. The More The Merrier
Poll Predicts Majority Turnout for US Airways Union Vote
Pensions, Wages, Health Care and Outsourcing
Top Workers' List of Concerns
WASHINGTON, Dec. 2 /PRNewswire/ -- A late November poll of US Airways
mechanics, utility, GSE and stock clerks predicts majority turnout for a union
representation election -- a strong signal that the issue will go to a vote of
workers.
The telephone poll of a random sample of US Airways workers showed that 89
percent of workers polled planned to vote in a representation election. The
National Mediation Board requires that 50 percent plus one member of any
potential bargaining unit must vote for any union to ensure union
representation.
In the poll, workers rated issues of concern in their US Airways
workplace. Those issues included pensions, wages, health care costs and
outsourcing. Workers said their responses to the recent poll were driven by
concerns about the airline industry's trend toward outsourcing of work -- and
by misleading information generated by US Airways.
"No matter what US Airways or any other union may say, as soon as these
workers choose the Teamsters as their certified bargaining agent, we will
begin bargaining an amalgamated agreement from the two existing contracts.
That agreement will protect all the members' work," said Andy Marshall,
Secretary-Treasurer of Teamsters Local 104 in Phoenix. "The results of this
poll show us that we are one step closer to beginning that process."
Founded in 1903, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters represents
more than 1.4 million hardworking men and women throughout the United States
and Canada.
SOURCE International Brotherhood of Teamsters
Web Site: http://www.teamster.org
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Issuers of news releases and not PR Newswire are solely responsible for the accuracy of the content.
Terms and conditions, including restrictions on redistribution, apply.
Copyright © 1996-2005 PR Newswire Association LLC. All Rights Reserved.
A United Business Media company.
Get Your IBT Cards In. The More The Merrier
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IF You Go To PAGE 4 And Look AT The IBT-IAM POLL Looks Real Close To The Same Number. 
We all work for US Airways Group, Inc. LCC (THE NEW AIRLINE) US Airways THE NAME ONLY.
I worked for America West Airlines, Inc as a TEAMSTER. You worked for US Airways, Inc. as IAM. We are both subsidiaries of the NEW AIRLINE. The KEY WORD is WORKED.
Parker and the boys in the glass house want that IAM contract to hold us at that pay till 12-31-2009 but if we go IBT he is not going to hold you down, what would he get from that? Over half of his MX work force MAD. And the Teamsters will fight for you to go under the new contract. ALL UNIONS WORK FOR DUES IAM IBT AMFA AND SO ON. The unions are a must or we all will be working for $17.00 hr. at Timco.
This is from SEC Filing 12-1-05
None of the US Airways, Inc. labor agreements becomes amendable until December 31, 2009 :down: . Of the America West Airlines, Inc. labor agreements, three are currently amendable
I don't understand you if what you say is true (USAirways was bought out) why are you fighting to have IBT come in when the snap back wages in the IAM contract will have you making close to or more the 34 a hour?
Hell I'll take the $34 an hr with the IBT plz. Wouldnt matter change in representation doent mean change in contract,.. right 700? Hell WN's contract has IBT all over it AMFA still services it.
