Fleet Service Members, How will you vote?

[700UW]

Please Vote

 

[28yrsnojob]

One BIG NO, this looks like the contract the union said the judge gave us two yrs ago.

 

[Jimmy Neutron]

I can tell you of only 10 people in PIT who will be voting yes...and those are the poor souls that came back to this company with around 20 years seniority at the starting wage....

The rest of PIT will be a resounding NO
For those out west who think they are screwing the east by voting yes.....do yourself a favor and think very hard before casting that vote in favor of the company and union....

A majority no vote will send a clear message to this union and company that we have had enough of the crap from both of them and we are ready to stand together as one and fight.......

VOTE NO MAKE THE UNION FIGHT FOR YOU and BY GOD LET"S STAND TOGETHER EAST WEST NORTH AND SOUTH FOR ONCE.......

JUST RE-POSTING THIS BECAUSE IT IS EVEN WORSE AFTER SEEING THE FINAL AGREEMENT/WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD THE IAM GIVE UP OUR PROFIT SHARING---YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING------SO WE WILL GO FROM THE ONLY GROUP IN THE COMPANY WITH THE 60 DAY RULE----TO NOW THE ONLY GROUP IN THE COMPANY WITH NO PROFIT SHARING/SO BASICALLY YOUR RAISE WILL REPLACE YOUR PROFIT SHARING---WHAT A JOKE-----WOW----HAVE THEY BECOME A BUNCH OF CIRCUS CLOWNS OR WHAT?


SEND IT BACK

 

[Tim Nelson]

One BIG NO, this looks like the contract the union said the judge gave us two yrs ago.

This will be interesting. The perfect divide and conquer that the IAM created. Nonetheless, I agree with those who realize this contract is dispicable, given the context of huge record profits and the $625 million arbitration case.

Based on current profit trends, the company is likely to produce a $1billion + pre tax income. That translates into $2,000+ for a topped out agent in the form of a check in about 6 months. At any rate,.....

Class 2 stations with high seniority: Will vote yes and not risk sending this back to the table and have PHL sell them out again. They will eat the big profit sharing check because they have been sold out before by their own.

Class 2 stations with low seniority: Much of class 2 stations are like the hubs and have workers that have less than 1 year of seniority. These have voiced a solid No because all they gain is a quarter but lose a profit sharing check totaling around $500 in 6 months. There is no reason for them to vote yes. But they have little ownership in their jobs so apathy may play into them not even voting.

East Hubs:
Pit will be a solid No. no doubt about it. I've talked to several there already and many are actually furious. However, there are more than just 10 people who will vote yes. Probably a 65-35 split.

PHL: Mixed results. PHL is very junior and consists of 650 workers of less than 2 years. There is little to no gain in voting yes for these folks, however, while talking to some from PHL there is little confidence that these folks will actually put in the effort to vote. If I had to say, I'd say PHL is about 55% No, 45% yes. The senior folks will vote no but they are the minority, but most of them will vote unlike the junior people who most likely won't bother. Got to go with history on this one, How Chandlee/Flynn go, phl goes.

CLT: Big No. CLT has always been the most militant, independent station, whereas PHL has usually given over its mind to its local union Bosses. 75%No 25% yes

America West: These folks give up alot more than you folks think. Their increased medical cost will eat at least $1.50per hour of their new raise. Throw in doctor's visits, dental, and the west won't know what hit them. Losing double time, no protection for 90% of their stations after 4 years, $1 hour ops pay, shift trade privileges, holidays, vacations, holiday pay, shift differ. Big loss with only a monetary gain. This contract actually could be a concession to them but the bottom line is the wage and the avoidance of going to arbitration which has a lessor benefit for them as opposed to the east. Westies vote overwhelmingly, like the class 2's for this.

This contract has a more likely chance of passing. I think it will be close but because of distrust between members, the Yes's will most likely win out by a decent sized margin. $19 was the target to secure the vote.

regards,

 

[Gio305]

YES

ill take the $2 raise. i wont be here that long.

 

[727_4_Ever]

BIG NO from me. We've got to get better than this at a time when the company is rolling in the dough. I've done enough posts on why. I just hope everyone can sit down an actually look at what they're giving up and not just the raise they may get.

 

[Jimmy Neutron]

YES

ill take the $2 raise. i wont be here that long.

The problem with America is we went from "We The People to " "Me The People"......What a shame!

 

[fedupinphilly]

This will be interesting. The perfect divide and conquer that the IAM created. Nonetheless, I agree with those who realize this contract is dispicable, given the context of huge record profits and the $625 million arbitration case.

Based on current profit trends, the company is likely to produce a $1billion + pre tax income. That translates into $2,000+ for a topped out agent in the form of a check in about 6 months. At any rate,.....

Class 2 stations with high seniority: Will vote yes and not risk sending this back to the table and have PHL sell them out again. They will eat the big profit sharing check because they have been sold out before by their own.

Class 2 stations with low seniority: Much of class 2 stations are like the hubs and have workers that have less than 1 year of seniority. These have voiced a solid No because all they gain is a quarter but lose a profit sharing check totaling around $500 in 6 months. There is no reason for them to vote yes. But they have little ownership in their jobs so apathy may play into them not even voting.

East Hubs:
Pit will be a solid No. no doubt about it. I've talked to several there already and many are actually furious. However, there are more than just 10 people who will vote yes. Probably a 65-35 split.

PHL: Mixed results. PHL is very junior and consists of 650 workers of less than 2 years. There is little to no gain in voting yes for these folks, however, while talking to some from PHL there is little confidence that these folks will actually put in the effort to vote. If I had to say, I'd say PHL is about 55% No, 45% yes. The senior folks will vote no but they are the minority, but most of them will vote unlike the junior people who most likely won't bother. Got to go with history on this one, How Chandlee/Flynn go, phl goes.

CLT: Big No. CLT has always been the most militant, independent station, whereas PHL has usually given over its mind to its local union Bosses. 75%No 25% yes

America West: These folks give up alot more than you folks think. Their increased medical cost will eat at least $1.50per hour of their new raise. Throw in doctor's visits, dental, and the west won't know what hit them. Losing double time, no protection for 90% of their stations after 4 years, $1 hour ops pay, shift trade privileges, holidays, vacations, holiday pay, shift differ. Big loss with only a monetary gain. This contract actually could be a concession to them but the bottom line is the wage and the avoidance of going to arbitration which has a lessor benefit for them as opposed to the east. Westies vote overwhelmingly, like the class 2's for this.

This contract has a more likely chance of passing. I think it will be close but because of distrust between members, the Yes's will most likely win out by a decent sized margin. $19 was the target to secure the vote.

regards,

Tim
STOP trying to guess what everyone will do and let them vote as they see fit
If anyone actually reads this contract it will be an easy no vote..NOONE wins with this piece of crap they sent us
Send it back and make them come back with a better offer

 

[Gio305]

The problem with America is we went from "We The People to " "Me The People"......What a shame!

every person has a different situation. im young and relatively new to this company compared to some of the senior agents. im not looking to make a career out of US Airways. eventually ill move along and pursue the career that i want. but at the moment im holding on to my job (which i like) and wouldnt mind the raise.

basically i got nothing to lose and everything to gain. but i can understand why most senior agents would vote NO. alot was taken away from you and you want a big chunk of it back. but seeing as i dont have a history in US Air, much less a future with the company, im willing to take the money now instead of waiting 3 years for a new contract. i seriously doubt ill be working for the company by then.

i know it might sound selfish but at the end of the day i have to look out for whats best for me. hopefully you understand where i come from

 

[b737200]

Please Vote

why do you care? move on with your life..............................

 

[brown]

Please Vote

In all due respect how can you ask for current employees to vote when you aren't a current employee yourself? 😱

 

[700UW]

And Brown you are not either, so last time I checked you don't have to be an employee to post topics and comment on them.

When that changes please let me know.

 

[allstrike]

YES

ill take the $2 raise. i wont be here that long.

so much for unionism and solidarity hu

 

[allstrike]

In all due respect how can you ask for current employees to vote when you aren't a current employee yourself? 😱

Ok he's not asking Im asking problem solved...

 

[700UW]

Does it matter?

Like I said, no where in the board rules does it say you have to be an employee to post.

Passengers, family members, current and former US Airways employees post along with a plethura of others.

Now get back on topic and stop trying to make it about me.