The sky is falling....... the sky is falling...............OHHH MYYYY GOD!
Take all of the TA into account. Take the insurance costs per month, the sick pay or lack of, the holidays or lack of, the vacation or lack of, THE JOB PROTECTION OR LACK OF etc. etc. and if you realize a pay increase then vote yes. I think you'll find the opposite. You are all grown men but some seem like little kids
with candy being dangled in front of them. If you can't vote this contract down, if it sucks, then quit, go find another job. Walmart is hiring. You'd think this company was being run by Bush and Co. The fear factor is a strong tool for the weak of mind. I'd rather go into a merger with this contract intact than vote in a POS like or worse than the last one.
And for those of you that think that Mike Fairbanks and Dave Hall have any other agenda than the welfare of the membership then you are not even worth arguing with. These guys are the only ones that you can trust and if Cornholy doesn't want them around than something just don't smell right.
I know Dave Hall personally and he is a straight up guy and I know people that know Mike Fairbanks and they say he is a straight up guy. If they oppose it that's all I need to know. I will vote NO unless the company and the IAM did some last minute tweaking to make it respectable. I doubt it! History prevails!
As usual your post is right on.....anything other than complete agreement of the entire negotiating team should throw up every red-flag ever made.........I think the thing everyone here needs to really sit down and think about is the fact that this company will obviously be merging (probably UA) and it will be happening very soon (probably before our boy Bush and Co.-Insert Parker/Canale andCo.) are driven out of office.......
The fact of this matter is that UA ramp tops out at $20.11 not counting shift differential (yes they have still have it) and $1.30 more an hour for leads.......And just look at their vacation 5 weeks at 24 years and 6 weeks at 29 years...
http://www.usaviation.com/forums/index.php...l=ramp+contract
........read it here taken from the UAL forum....And I guarantee that they have other things in their contract the we can only dream about having.
So if you really think about it, this TA is the companies and Canale's attempt to eliminate our CIC language keep our lower wages and sh**ty benefits intact so the merger can go through allowing the merged company to again save millions of dollars on our backs while they lavish themselves with huge bonuses and 3-5 million houses we all would consider resorts for vacations....
So what we really need to ask ourselves here, with this supposed merger so close and the New Direction team soon to be replacing the Canale regime....we may be better off waiting the merger announcement and New Direction teams arrival, worst case scenario, we end up covered under the UAL IAM contract or we get a better offer from the company before hand.....
And for those of you out there that can honestly vote yes for a contract that cannot even be signed off and be in complete agreement of our negotiating committee, you really need to think this thing out.
And I would also like to thank Mike F. and Dave H. for exploiting our worthless District Leader. I also agree that if these 2 are not happy and comfortable with this agreement, then that's enough for me.
We deserve a fair and equitable shake in this company...PERIOD...We are not asking for the world, just the same industry standards that everyone else enjoys..
Please read the TA very carefully and base your decision on these facts......I for one don't want to be making $19.00 if we merge with UA and the UA guys are making over a dollar more than me along with shift diff. and other things we all should have..
This group has never been more together and solid then it is now, let's stick together to get what we deserve..