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ROGUE,
O.T is called in classification. meaning PT is called for PT hours and FT is called for FT hours. L/A are called for L/A hours
if the list for one class is exhausted then they go out of class to fill the slots. the only time it gets hairy is when A FT gets called
for a 6 hour shift that would appear to be a PT shift but in actually is an added on line so that would go to FT first then PT.
sure as long as you get your 8.5 % screw everybody getting 1.7% what a guyFuzz--
I am an East guy with 30 years and I agree 1000%--
These boards are very frustrating!
Get over it its now or wait and for those of us in the west and class 2 the time for waiting is over.
bag chucker , believe me when I say I’d rather not close down your station , in fact if I recall correctly you’ve already been displaced once before , must be an awful thing , and if your where I recall your at , it’s a hell of a lot better than being in AZ . However , you know the kind of wages we make here in the west , and you also know how hard a bargaining agent this company is . Doug parker and crew are ALL about cost savings , about keeping wages low and competitive , a lot of these east guys just think that their own union negotiators are selling them out , when in fact the reality is their dealing with a VERY stingy company . The truth of the matter my brother , is if we don’t get this voted in , none of us are going to see wage increases for a LONG LONG time , that new direction team , their hardliners , they think their going to walk into the board room and this companies just going to bend over , HA what a surprise their in for … and as it takes them months , turning into years to understand what kind of company we’re dealing with , we on the very bottom rung will languish .
I’m not trying to validate myself brother nor glorify the TA, I just want to make sure the east guys understand things for what they truly are out here … There’s so much hype and half truths surrounding all of this , corruption , CHANGE OF CONTROL being worth something etc , I just don’t want to see people get lost and confused by it all .
p.s hey if I can make an honest and decent wage I have no problem working M/T pm .
This is about survival in a down economy. As for the 19 cities you should be thankful that you have time to decide what you may need to do, and find a place to transfer to that you can be happy with. Some companies just come in one day and close the doors no warning or anything.
For anyone in the class 1 cities for you guys to say we want to protect you guys and we care about you in the west and class 2 well, I just dont see it when you are willing to keep us at these crap wages for the next 2 or 3 years. I just say thats selfish. Sure its easy for you, you make 17.35 per hour already. Do us a favor get on board out here, take a walk in our shoes and see how it is to live in this economy with our wages. The ony fair vote is a yes vote for all of us and our fellow brother and sisters.
O-man
I did some calculations and this is what I came up with. I'm not a math professor but I'm pretty sure these are correct. These are the pay raises for the east Class I cities. I left off the starting pay because I think it may be different in various cities.
Year......Current Pay.........Proposed Pay Under T/A...........Dollar Am't Increase...........% Increase
12............$17.52..........................$19.00...................................$1.48............................8.5%
11............$17.52..........................$18.38...................................$0.86............................4.9%
10............$17.52..........................$17.95...................................$0.43............................2.5%
9..............$17.20..........................$17.41...................................$0.21............................1.2%
8..............$16.02..........................$16.22...................................$0.22............................1.4%
7..............$15.11..........................$15.31...................................$0.20............................1.3%
6..............$14.28..........................$14.49...................................$0.21............................1.5%
5..............$14.03..........................$14.23...................................$0.20............................1.4%
4..............$12.01..........................$12.21...................................$0.20............................1.7%
3..............$11.51..........................$11.72...................................$0.21............................1.8%
2..............$10.86..........................$11.06...................................$0.20............................1.8%
1..............$10.06..........................$10.26...................................$0.20............................2.0%
If any of these are wrong I'm sure someone will let me know. Could someone explain why they couldn't offer the same percentage raise across the whole scale. It looks to me like nothing more than a wage bait for the topped out employees. I would like to know what formula was used to figure these out.
I do understand what you are saying. But in the t/a it doesn't say that. I will post the section at the bottom for you to see.
13 E. Overtime required as a result of full-time vacancies/absences
14 and overtime required when additional shifts are necessary
15 which exceed five (5) work hours will be offered first to full16
time employees.
Overtime required as a result of part-time
23 vacancies/absences and overtime required when additional
24 shifts are necessary which are 5 work hours or less will be
25 offered first to part-time employees.
The west goes by straight DOH for awarding overtime. They have one list. It doesn't matter if you are p/t, f/t, or a lead. Whoever is senior and signed up for the o/t has first choice. Whereas the east has three lists to complicate o/t matters each day. My question is what date will we use for being awarded the overtime if this t/a passes? Do we go by the west system, the east system, or some unknown system that will be thought up at the last minute? It doesn't say in the t/a.
The Company and the Union agree that integration of seniority lists will be based on an
employee’s date of entry into his/her classification as defined in the collective bargaining
agreement covering each respective classification on the merged US Airways.
Joe he doesnt care it's all about him a fine face of unions everywhereGiantfan
If I am not mistaken did not M&R get a 10% across the board pay scale increase. Not only did we only get offered 8.5% thats is only for those with 12 years or more. The least they could have done was made the percentage equal across the whole scale.
That argument has no merit. A 1 year agent gets 2% and a 9 year gets 1.2%. There is no ryhme or reason to the scale.If you are only getting 1.7% of a pay raise then you are way down on the payscale and you will have to earn it like everyone else did.