Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

[700UW]

One of out of three cases was heard.
 
You havent sung yet.
 
And you arent honest, what is your real agenda and occupation?
 
Did Gerry not tell you how to answer it yet?

 

[737823]

One of out of three cases was heard.
 
You havent sung yet.
 
And you arent honest, what is your real agenda and occupation?
 
Did Gerry not tell you how to answer it yet?

 
Who is Gerry?
 
Josh

 

[Kev3188]

Nobody cares.

Stay on topic or GTFO.

Thanks.

 

[737823]

Nobody cares.

Stay on topic or GTFO.

Thanks.

 
Tell 700 that, he is the one who asked...
 
Josh

 

[eolesen]

Yeah, you're blameless.

 

[robbedagain]

Kev or any DL folks   how close are the FAs or ACS in getting the elections or announcement regarding union

 

[700UW]

No one will except the higher ups will know that robbed, and if anyone else did they still wouldnt post it so the company doesnt know.

 

[WorldTraveler]

Nope. If passes were considered compensation, it would be taxable as income, and they couldn't be revoked for abuse.

The only people for whom pass travel is considered compensation is those who have reserved space privileges, and it gets reported to the IRS as imputed income.

There are certainly airlines who think they can offer lower wages because travel is offered, but that's no more part of the compensation formula than the employee discount offered at Kohls or McDonalds is.

wrong, as usual.

passes are a benefit that comes from airline employment. The IRS does not allow any airline to give pass benefits to non-employees.

the IRS says they must be for personal travel and on a standby basis or be subject to tax, but they are absolutely compensation by anyone that knows anything about the subject.

 

[737823]

wrong, as usual.

passes are a benefit that comes from airline employment. The IRS does not allow any airline to give pass benefits to non-employees.

the IRS says they must be for personal travel and on a standby basis or be subject to tax, but they are absolutely compensation by anyone that knows anything about the subject.

 
The offer letters I have seen over the years for corporate positions at AA, CO, DL, and UA all highlighted space available systemwide travel as part of the package, in fact listed before other traditional employer provided benefits.
 
Josh

 

[robbedagain]

thanks 700  sure hope to see DL folks become union..

 

[BABABOOY]

Kev or any DL folks   how close are the FAs or ACS in getting the elections or announcement regarding union

for IFS, no closer than they were 2 years ago.  Still no call for an election.....  Maybe by the end of the year lol.....

 

[Kev3188]

The increase in messaging by the company says otherwise...

 

[eolesen]

The offer letters I have seen over the years for corporate positions at AA, CO, DL, and UA all highlighted space available systemwide travel as part of the package, in fact listed before other traditional employer provided benefits.

Yeah, not quite. I'm looking at offer letters *I've* received. Travel is quite clearly not listed as either compensation or as a benefit.

Profit sharing? 401K match? Yep. That's compensation. It has a cost to the company, and you can sue over it when it's not received.

If you want to consider anything you get as an employee as compensation, then go for it, but employee travel programs are considered privileges, not compensation. That wording is quite deliberate.

Compensation is something you receive in exchange for your labor, and you can file a lawsuit when you don't receive it. Benefits are something you receive in exchange for your labor, and there's a quantifiable cost to the company to provide it.

Privileges typically cost nothing to the company to provide, and they can be revoked without recourse.

Travel is no more considered compensation than the ability to telecommute, receive professional training, expect toilet paper in the restroom, get a 10-20% discount on retail travel, eat free donuts at meeting or in the breakroom on holidays, or receive discounts from other companies.

None of those things are guaranteed. They're intangibles. They have no value to the employee unless they choose to use them, and there's no real cost to the company to offer it.

Sure, it's part of the overall employment package, but it's not compensation, and it's not a benefit.

As a banker, I'd think the fine print would be meaningful enough for you to notice the differences.

 

[700UW]

Larisa Bolyard
16 hrs

Hi. I'm Larisa. I have colon cancer. You all remember me, right?
 
I have the Gold HRA plan.
 
My generic medication co-pays WERE $10.
 
Now, my Capecitabine which is generic for Xeloda, my chemotherapy drug, is going to cost me $1047.76 for a 21-day supply.
*Cough* *Cough*
 
WTF Airlines is basically saying, "Hey dumb *****, we don't care if you die of cancer! Suck it!"
 
Even if I WAS working, which I am not, (I'm on short-term disability about to cross over into long-term disability territory...) I couldn't afford that.
 
I can't WAIT to find out how much the OTHER medications I take are going to cost me.

 

[700UW]