IAM Fleet Service Topic

[robbedagain]

any guesses on how long it will be before the company starts using that old ax in particular on the west if this merger goes thru

 

[brownie]

philly,

I live 40 miles from the airport and I went in on my day off just to vote....

I'm sure voting lasted more than 8 hrs....I'm sure they could have went b4 or after their shift....please stop with the excuses....

Oh Yep, Before or After their 16 hr day they have to work to live!

 

[giantfan]

Oh Yep, Before or After their 16 hr day they have to work to live!

are you a little bitter brownie?

 

[Henderfuzz]

If everyone voted off property: NO crying by me or b##tching either. All I am saying is we all vote the the same, period! I can deal with losing as far as playing fair. When you have a crooked DISTRICT 141 mob, controlling everything (opinion),(but obvious). THIS SUX!

Voting locations is usually determined by the local. They also work with the local managment as to wither there is a hostle enviroment towards the agents, as to if it is to be on site.
So you can take that however you want. Also if a good location can be found on site.

 

[Dissent Equals Patriotism]

any guesses on how long it will be before the company starts using that old ax in particular on the west if this merger goes thru

I would say the end of September after the busy summer season. I suspect that is how far you can book in advance now

 

[Theo Corner]

Timmy, won't Parker ask the NMB to force the IAM into transition agreements instead of section 6? Thereby postponing section 6 this march. Wouldn't that make United workers hostage this March? Couldn't we come out ahead if we just did the following.....
shouldn't we decert the IAM to lose this contract, thereby eliminating transition talks off of our contract, and to FORCE the NMB to allow an election where we can elect the IAM in an election? We won't even have to do a card signup. I think many of us would go for this since we know there would be another election where we could just vote union back in and then be placed under their surviving contract since it will be the only one.

Many questions need to be answered but I think we can anticipate Parker's.

 

[GoldenRam94]

Timmy, won't Parker ask the NMB to force the IAM into transition agreements instead of section 6? Thereby postponing section 6 this march. Wouldn't that make United workers hostage this March? Couldn't we come out ahead if we just did the following.....
shouldn't we decert the IAM to lose this contract, thereby eliminating transition talks off of our contract, and to FORCE the NMB to allow an election where we can elect the IAM in an election? We won't even have to do a card signup. I think many of us would go for this since we know there would be another election where we could just vote union back in and then be placed under their surviving contract since it will be the only one.

Many questions need to be answered but I think we can anticipate Parker's.

Here we go again!

 

[cltrat]

we need to get rid of thr crooked IAM leadership first,like Cheap Suites then go from there

 

[HPMKE]

Timmy, won't Parker ask the NMB to force the IAM into transition agreements instead of section 6? Thereby postponing section 6 this march. Wouldn't that make United workers hostage this March? Couldn't we come out ahead if we just did the following.....
shouldn't we decert the IAM to lose this contract, thereby eliminating transition talks off of our contract, and to FORCE the NMB to allow an election where we can elect the IAM in an election? We won't even have to do a card signup. I think many of us would go for this since we know there would be another election where we could just vote union back in and then be placed under their surviving contract since it will be the only one.

Many questions need to be answered but I think we can anticipate Parker's.

Should the IAM be Decertified we would have to wait at least a year before trying to get in another union.

What do you think Parker would do to this workforce without ANY Protections for any stations it would not matter where you worked YOU WOULD BE SCREWED!!!

 

[robbedagain]

Should the IAM be Decertified we would have to wait at least a year before trying to get in another union.

What do you think Parker would do to this workforce without ANY Protections for any stations it would not matter where you worked YOU WOULD BE SCREWED!!!

all you got to do is look at us Piedmont workers and see how we get low wages, stinking health coverage especially P/T health coverage that cvant be used hardly anywhere etc etc those are examples of what ol dougie would probably due to a non union worker group at US, bypassing a senior agent to a junior for a full time position as well as making up a full time for the junior agent are just examples

 

[Tim Nelson]

we need to get rid of thr crooked IAM leadership first,like Cheap Suites then go from there

Bingo.

Our focus is on changing the leadership. After the leadership change, there is much to do to keep busy. Negotiating contracts is just one aspect. There may be an election for the ticket counter workers and this could create a risk to their representational status, especially if layoffs happen.

The IAM organizing department will have its hands full enough with the Delta/NW merger.
NW ramp, and NW counter folks have a very high risk of losing their representation, IMO, because the IAM's organizing department is in sore need of having innovative and bright people who can actually get individuals to open their eyes and ears to them.

In DL141, PK is atrocious, so I am very concerned about losing the PCE folks from the IAM.

As aside, I have been told by 'many' that the anti New Direction site is run by KA. I certainly hope this isn't true as it is very unprofessional, poorly written, uses bad grammar, and 'absurd'.
It is quite laughable how the site claims that 1487 supports Randy Canale's Team 2008. Geez.
June 3rd will be impressive and I'll just leave it at that. K, tell me it isn't so?

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

 

[iaminformer]

Bingo.

Our focus is on changing the leadership. After the leadership change, there is much to do to keep busy. Negotiating contracts is just one aspect. There may be an election for the ticket counter workers and this could create a risk to their representational status, especially if layoffs happen.

The IAM organizing department will have its hands full enough with the Delta/NW merger.
NW ramp, and NW counter folks have a very high risk of losing their representation, IMO, because the IAM's organizing department is in sore need of having innovative and bright people who can actually get individuals to open their eyes and ears to them.

In DL141, PK is atrocious, so I am very concerned about losing the PCE folks from the IAM.

As aside, I have been told by 'many' that the anti New Direction site is run by KA. I certainly hope this isn't true as it is very unprofessional, poorly written, uses bad grammar, and 'absurd'.
It is quite laughable how the site claims that 1487 supports Randy Canale's Team 2008. Geez.
June 3rd will be impressive and I'll just leave it at that. K, tell me it isn't so?

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

Delta-Northwest Deal Could Oust Unions
Ted Reed
05/01/08 - 06:49 AM EDT
CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- The dealmaking behind the creation of the world's largest airline may very well result in a referendum on union representation in the airline industry.

Why? The planned merger of Delta DAL and Northwest NWA represents a combination of two carriers with vastly different labor profiles. Just 15% of Delta's 55,000 workers are unionized; 80% of Northwest's 34,000 workers are.

In the representation elections likely to follow a merger, unions could very well be ousted. "We think part of the thinking here is that they could de-unionize the transportation labor movement," says Robert Roach, general vice president of the International Association of Machinists, the largest airline union and a key opponent of the merger.

A History of Union Resistance
In recent years, a series of efforts to unionize Delta workers have all failed. In 2002, flight attendants rejected the Association of Flight Attendants, which won only 29% of the vote.

In 2001, before an industry downturn forced Delta to reduce its workforce by roughly 30,000 workers, the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association failed to organize Delta mechanics.

In 1997, the Transport Workers Union failed to organize about 8,000 fleet-service workers. The IAM has been trying to organize about 6,000 fleet-service workers since 2006.

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IT SEEMS GL ORGANIZERS AND DL ORGANIZER'S ONLY CONCERN AT THE MOMENT IS KEEPING THEIR PAY INTACT INSTEAD OF DOING THEIR JOBS TO ORGANIZE MORE WORKERS ESPECIALLY WITHIN THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY. WITH OUT ORGANIZING THE IAM'S FUTURE IS IN DOUBT. THE IAM GL LEADERS NEED TO RETHINK WHO IS IN CHARGE OF ORGANIZING IN THE GL AND DL AND GET SOME PEOPLE IN THERE THAT KNOW HOW TO ACCOMPLISH THE JOB.

 

[Tim Nelson]

IT SEEMS GL ORGANIZERS AND DL ORGANIZER'S ONLY CONCERN AT THE MOMENT IS KEEPING THEIR PAY INTACT INSTEAD OF DOING THEIR JOBS TO ORGANIZE MORE WORKERS ESPECIALLY WITHIN THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY. WITH OUT ORGANIZING THE IAM'S FUTURE IS IN DOUBT. THE IAM GL LEADERS NEED TO RETHINK WHO IS IN CHARGE OF ORGANIZING IN THE GL AND DL AND GET SOME PEOPLE IN THERE THAT KNOW HOW TO ACCOMPLISH THE JOB.

I have no idea who the 'keystone cop' was that was in charge of the delta campaigns but I was appaled at the 'entry level' campaign material. This DL/NW thing is going to be a "GO" and the IAM risks a very real possibility of losing ALL NW workers, practically 17,000 members. This unionized industry can not afford such an unaccountable blow.
And over at UA, let's hope there is no election for the PCE folks, given the current players. IMO, these people, even at the INTL level really don't care about the IAM one iota. It's all about filing the reports, and charting the points.

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

 

[Theo Corner]

Timmy, won't Parker ask the NMB to force the IAM into transition agreements instead of section 6? Thereby postponing section 6 this march. Wouldn't that make United workers hostage this March? Couldn't we come out ahead if we just did the following.....
shouldn't we decert the IAM to lose this contract, thereby eliminating transition talks off of our contract, and to FORCE the NMB to allow an election where we can elect the IAM in an election? We won't even have to do a card signup. I think many of us would go for this since we know there would be another election where we could just vote union back in and then be placed under their surviving contract since it will be the only one.

Many questions need to be answered but I think we can anticipate Parker's.

Sorry about that folks... I must have accidentally left myself logged in over the weekend and someone used my id. Must find out who did that...

Anyway, I am thinking of something other than opting out of the IAM. If this merger does not happen and we somehow fail to get rid of Canoli, why can't we separate out like the M & R did. Create a District 141-US as it were. What would it take for us to create our own district?

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[Old Guy]

The M district existed when we had the numbers. United , North West and US Airways. But a closing of ALL the shops and most of the heavy maintenance, was due to contracts and bankrupcy. In fact you could see Ramp and M&R in the same local @ Pit . The IAMAW will tighten it's belt before cuts go up hill.
Also dues will tried to be raised. Haven't seen any cuts since we had "M" closed. Just one happy mixed district. :blink: