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MUTATIS MUTANDIS said:
Or the NUAGHLER GROUP DOL OLMS back at ya!  Your Urban dictionary must be getting worn out!
Back at me?

Back at you with a return address of
1275 W Washington.
 
Considering that AA's junior captain listed online is a 1993 MD-80 guy in LGA...  Well I think that one item there is going to drive what the APA thinks about the NIC.    Anything with the NIC in it will make him junior to a bunch of guys hired post 9/11
 
I don't see them wanting to get all cozy with the west on this issue, lawsuit threat or not.
 
Time will tell.
 
MUTATIS MUTANDIS said:
95 7th ST.
 
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Safford, AZ
 
snapthis said:
Very easy. Why would the APA want to risk being a defendant in our fight? The Allied pilots appear to be a more logical and less emotional group than USTUPID pilots.
 
 
Any threat to steal seniority (perceived or otherwise) makes people do some stupid $H!T.  Have you not learned anything? 😀
 
Phoenix said:
 
 
Any threat to steal seniority (perceived or otherwise) makes people do some stupid $H!T.  Have you not learned anything? 😀
 
So don't steal mine and you won't have a problem.
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snapthis said:
What about the TA?

Has Judge Silver ruled?

Too bad you could not stay out of court. She'll make very important decisions for USTUPID since they are not capable or nor credible enough to do anything without oversight.
 
What about the TA...  The courts have never enforced an arbitration.  Never.  The court has no jurisdiction over an arbitration...  If they even have jurisdiction over anything related to an arbitration, it is merely the enforceable contract that circumscribes the arbitration (like the 2005 TA, or the MOU, both of which are under the exclusive jurisdiction of the System Board).  
 
The 2005 TA and the MOU are mutually exclusive.... They cannot both be dispositive on the same issue at the same time.  Think about it.  Think about it real hard on Dec 9th. That is just the way it is.  To hope differently is ignorant (not that ignorance is against the law. Its just that it can be real expensive... if say, a rich kid starts a for-profit LLC and exploits people's passions. 😀 )
 
Judge Silver?  Sure.  She hasn't ruled yet.  And it is apparent you have placed your hope in a judge who telegraphs her bias---- a judge who has already racked up more reason for being remanded and vacated than Wake ever dreamed of.  You place your hope in the biased personality of a judge rather than the laws (implicit assumption isn't the law, no matter how much you pay Marty to assume otherwise :lol: ).
 
And now you seem to be placing your hope in APA to join with you because you implicitly assume they are afraid of your wittle lawsuit.  APA cares about seniority and they don't need any friends to make them the majority... Majority.. such a little word. 
 
Sooner or later it will dawn on all the faithful AOL members....  It was extremely expensive, and inevitably futile, for a minority to attempt to force their will on the majority.  It takes years and years in the courts and the result is never one sided.  Surender after exhaustion is the resolution.  Parker once said something about "acceptance".  No one wins except the lawyers and the proverbial rich kid that is smart enough and well connected enough to start an LLC.
 
I hope for your sake you are a proverbial rich kid, so to speak.   :lol:
 
snapthis said:
 
So don't steal mine and you won't have a problem.
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  Youse guys assume that your habitual accusations are implicitly other people's problems.  Always threatening.  Always assuming.   :lol:
 
traderjake said:
 
Go ahead and recall Gary but Bill is not getting you DOH, Delta payrates, or $100,000.
We already have DOH in case you did not know.
 
nycbusdriver said:
 
A traitor is a traitor, traitor.
 
Don't make me file for trademark protection.
 
I little help here, Mike. 
 
the following motion was moved/seconded by..........and passed 10-1
 
WHEREAS, an application has been made to the USPTO to trademark USAPA by an individual other than USAPA and,
WHEREAS USAPA is the owner of, and user of the USAPA trademark for commerce and business use,
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT the Officers direct USAPA legal to notify the USPTO of the improper application for said trademark and submit the proper application for the USAPA trademark.
 
Phoenix said:
 
What about the TA...  The courts have never enforced an arbitration.  Never.  The court has no jurisdiction over an arbitration...  If they even have jurisdiction over anything related to an arbitration, it is merely the enforceable contract that circumscribes the arbitration (like the 2005 TA, or the MOU, both of which are under the exclusive jurisdiction of the System Board).  
 
The 2005 TA and the MOU are mutually exclusive.... They cannot both be dispositive on the same issue at the same time.  Think about it.  Think about it real hard on Dec 9th. That is just the way it is.  To hope differently is ignorant (not that ignorance is against the law. Its just that it can be real expensive... if say, a rich kid starts a for-profit LLC and exploits people's passions. 😀 )
 
Judge Silver?  Sure.  She hasn't ruled yet.  And it is apparent you have placed your hope in a judge who telegraphs her bias---- a judge who has already racked up more reason for being remanded and vacated than Wake ever dreamed of.  You place your hope in the biased personality of a judge rather than the laws (implicit assumption isn't the law, no matter how much you pay Marty to assume otherwise :lol: ).
 
And now you seem to be placing your hope in APA to join with you because you implicitly assume they are afraid of your wittle lawsuit.  APA cares about seniority and they don't need any friends to make them the majority... Majority.. such a little word. 
 
Sooner or later it will dawn on all the faithful AOL members....  It was extremely expensive, and inevitably futile, for a minority to attempt to force their will on the majority.  It takes years and years in the courts and the result is never one sided.  Surender after exhaustion is the resolution.  Parker once said something about "acceptance".  No one wins except the lawyers and the proverbial rich kid that is smart enough and well connected enough to start an LLC.
 
I hope for your sake you are a proverbial rich kid, so to speak.   :lol:
The Courts have never OVERTURNED an arbitration either. You know, that would put the fake union on "dangerous ground". A Judge has never had to "enforce" an arbitration before either. Nobody but you scumbag East pilots have been so stupid as to have started a fake union with the singular purpose of screwing the minority AFTER the results of binding arbitration were made known to you. Oh yeah, you're on very solid legal ground. That explains how effortless it's been for your fake union to move forward a single millimeter since is birth. The APA got you your raise. You seem sane enough to at least acknowledge that fact.
 
Res Judicata said:
 
 
What about the TA...  The courts have never enforced an arbitration.  Never.  The court has no jurisdiction over an arbitration...  If they even have jurisdiction over anything related to an arbitration, it is merely the enforceable contract that circumscribes the arbitration (like the 2005 TA, or the MOU, both of which are under the exclusive jurisdiction of the System Board).  
 
The 2005 TA and the MOU are mutually exclusive.... They cannot both be dispositive on the same issue at the same time.  Think about it.  Think about it real hard on Dec 9th. That is just the way it is.  To hope differently is ignorant (not that ignorance is against the law. Its just that it can be real expensive... if say, a rich kid starts a for-profit LLC and exploits people's passions. 😀 )
 
Judge Silver?  Sure.  She hasn't ruled yet.  And it is apparent you have placed your hope in a judge who telegraphs her bias---- a judge who has already racked up more reason for being remanded and vacated than Wake ever dreamed of.  You place your hope in the biased personality of a judge rather than the laws (implicit assumption isn't the law, no matter how much you pay Marty to assume otherwise :lol: ).
 
And now you seem to be placing your hope in APA to join with you because you implicitly assume they are afraid of your wittle lawsuit.  APA cares about seniority and they don't need any friends to make them the majority... Majority.. such a little word. 
 
Sooner or later it will dawn on all the faithful AOL members....  It was extremely expensive, and inevitably futile, for a minority to attempt to force their will on the majority.  It takes years and years in the courts and the result is never one sided.  Surender after exhaustion is the resolution.  Parker once said something about "acceptance".  No one wins except the lawyers and the proverbial rich kid that is smart enough and well connected enough to start an LLC.
 
I hope for your sake you are a proverbial rich kid, so to speak.   :lol:
The Courts have never OVERTURNED an arbitration either. You know, that would put the fake union on "dangerous ground". A Judge has never had to "enforce" an arbitration before either. Nobody but you scumbag East pilots have been so stupid as to have started a fake union with the singular purpose of screwing the minority AFTER the results of binding arbitration were made known to you. Oh yeah, you're on very solid legal ground. That explains how effortless it's been for your fake union to move forward a single millimeter since is birth. The APA got you your raise. You seem sane enough to at least acknowledge that fact.
 
 
The courts have certainly enforced contracts that stipulate an arbitration award.  No doubt.  And they have also enforced contracts that nullify previous contracts.  That is just the nature of contracts.... and the pilots have always been involved in contract negotiations from the beginning of this internal dispute.  Contract... contract...  breath.  Breath.  Breath..
 
On Dec 9th the terms of the MOU will be dispositive, just like Leonidas, LLC told you to expect.  
 
P.S.  I think your brain is on overload contemplating the authority of the contract you voted for.  You totally forgot to use the word "scab". :lol:
 
Phoenix said:
 
 
 
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  Youse guys assume that your habitual accusations are implicitly other people's problems.  Always threatening.  Always assuming.   :lol:
 
Some of you leave quite the papertrail.
 
 
That's my assumption.  
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snapthis said:
 
Some of you leave quite the papertrail.
 
 
That's my assumption.  
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AOL theme song 
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVR8lg1YLuc
 
They call it stormy Moday, but Tuesday's just as bad
They call it stormy Moday, but Tuesday's just as bad
Wednesday's worse, and Thursday's also sad

Yes the eagle flies on Friday, and Saturday I go out to play
Eagle flies on Friday, and Saturday I go out to play
Sunday I go to church, then I kneel down and pray

Lord have mercy, Lord have mercy on me
Lord have mercy, my heart's in misery
Crazy about my baby, yes, send Nicky back to me
 
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