Nov/Dec 2013 Pilot Discussion

[traderjake]

DAN that slot info, attrition cmon man, we did not do anything stupid, the rules set by ALPA not the NAT'L GOVT!

 
The arbiter said "You're not getting what you want, give me something I can work with".
 
We said "No".
 
That was stupid.

 

[Phoenix]

 
So you admit what we did was stupid, we're starting to make progress.

Ha!  You delete my words to imply to opposite of what I said... and in doing so show your true West proclivities of "integrity", and euphoria induced by self-righteous denial...  
 
You are progressing well!   I think you might have an in with the "hot" "singing fat lady".   :wub:  :wub:
 
🙂

 

[767one]

I sure not going to go from working 8 days a month to Reserve for $125.

I can't fault you for that. I stayed on the 9 until I could be #1 on the 737 then stayed on the 737 until I could hold #1 on the 75/76. It's all about quality of life money is just a nice perk.

Bob

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

 
You're argument is BANKRUPT.

EXPLAIN PLEEZ!

 

[traderjake]

I can't fault you for that. I stayed on the 9 until I could be #1 on the 737 then stayed on the 737 until I could hold #1 on the 75/76. It's all about quality of life money is just a nice perk.

 

 
I was #4 F/O on the F28 in MIA, that's as close as I'll ever get.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

 
That's exactly what they want, slotting by equipment and status. 
 
Ask them, I did.

THEY WANT THE NIC ? A guy hired in 1987 JUNIOR to a 2004 hire?

 

[Phoenix]

I can't fault you for that. I stayed on the 9 until I could be #1 on the 737 then stayed on the 737 until I could hold #1 on the 75/76. It's all about quality of life money is just a nice perk.

Bob

 
 
Who can fault a pilot for wanting the fruits of seniority?  😀

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

 
I was #4 on the F28 in MIA, that's as close as I'll ever get.

F/O! Yes good for you!

 

[traderjake]

EXPLAIN PLEEZ!

 
As in our company was in BANKRUPTCY facing possible liquidation.

 

[nic4us]

OK so now AMR pilots should get a NIC type seniority list because their BANCRUPT?

The AMR pilots and LCC pilots will get a "NIC type" seniority integration, because it is federal law under the McCaskill/Bond Amendment.

MB calls for a "fair and equitable" integration, and that is what will result, just like in the Nic.


Now, I am pretty certain that if you do not like the outcome, that you will look for every opportunity to SCAB jobs, just like in the LCC merger.

 

[traderjake]

THEY WANT THE NIC ? A guy hired in 1987 JUNIOR to a 2004 hire?

 
They want slotting by equipment and status with fences around the WBs and no base or NB fences, according to a member of the APA Scope Committee.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

I can't fault you for that. I stayed on the 9 until I could be #1 on the 737 then stayed on the 737 until I could hold #1 on the 75/76. It's all about quality of life money is just a nice perk.

Bob

It is" TOTALLY ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE", NOT TO BE DISTURBED BY A GUY HIRED 15 years later! Like the NIC!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

 
As in our company was in BANKRUPTCY facing possible liquidation.

DID IT HAPPEN? HYPOTHETICALS DO NOT COUNT!, ASSETS ARE  ASSETS DAN, you voted for LOA 93 I DID NOT !

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

The AMR pilots and LCC pilots will get a "NIC type" seniority integration, because it is federal law under the McCaskill/Bond Amendment.

MB calls for a "fair and equitable" integration, and that is what will result, just like in the Nic.


Now, I am pretty certain that if you do not like the outcome, that you will look for every opportunity to SCAB jobs, just like in the LCC merger.

Actually the "2" unions USAPA, APA" will work it out, pretty certain the west will just call MARTY! DEC9 mark ur calender1

 

[nic4us]

My aren't you eloquent tonight?  Was it really that bad flying with us Easties?  Admit it.. Didn't you find us to be more relaxed, polite, and genuinely just more cool to fly with?   😀
 
P.S.  In 2008 there were two lists and you were furloughed in seniority order on your list (not the one you are 1,200 to 1,400 numbers senior to yourself) .  All your mental energy didn't change the two lists in 2008,
is hasn't changed it now, and in another five years you'll find once the lists do change it won't be your eloquence that changed them. 🙂

actually, there were two lists, and the furloughs went out of seniority order.

Seems the SCAB union asked the company, and got junior east pilots transfers back to an east operation that was...get this, also furloughing at the time......er....well...they were supposed to be furloughing....but um....well...it seems the company did not need to actually furlough.....um....by...um SENIORITY, they just needed to furlough and it was not going to be east pilots.....

You know...those east pilot SCABS who work for less money and less vacation, and on a crappy contract so that they can steal West jobs?


face it....USAPA=SCAB.....today, tomorrow, five years from now...USAP=SCAB...