OCT/NOV 2012 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Claxon]

Nice try idiot.

Any other guesses?

What are we guessing about?

 

[Move2CLT]

What are we guessing about?

Its being taken care of.

 

[Claxon]

So why hasn't it happened already?

It will.

 

[Move2CLT]

It was a message to the admin that I passed along and I copied you in on it. Do you not know how to read. His message was not directed at you at all.

Damn.

Nice move on your part.

Congrats on crossing the line.

 

[Claxon]

It was a message I passed along.

Nice move on your part.

Congrats on crossing the line.

Who was it passed from, the squirrels you hang with, or the ones you get from aliens? Care to elaborate on your latest mission, your move, someones mother? The discussions you are involved with on this board, as everyone knows, are rather peculiar.

 

[Move2CLT]

I was asked to no longer continue this conversation so I guess we're done.

 

[luvthe9]

I was asked to no longer continue this conversation so I guess we're done.

Why don't you pack the imaginary moving van.

 

[luvthe9]

Pays the bills? You sure about that retard? Seems like you've skipped a few of your meds.

God damn you're an idiot.

Where did he go? I heard he was on a rant, again. Like the above maybe?

 

[luvthe9]

Marty must have given some really bad news today. Move2 left in a huff.

 

[luvthe9]

I'm guessing your wrong.

Pull up,our contract and read it.

Oh, and quit living in the past you idiot. Maybe you'd be off LOA93 if you'd look around at your PRESENT shitty situation.

And I said "language", not "contract" you yutz. Man I swear you easties get dumber by the day.

You kids out West better keep and eye on him. This is getting worse by the day.

 

[luvthe9]

Maybe he should pay attention to this, again:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRJ38y4Jn6k

 

[Claxon]

These are not a "snippets", it is the bottom line. Judge Silver could not have made it more clear and direct in her order.

"This conclusion places US Airways in a difficult position. At the present time, it is
not possible to predict what will result from the collective bargaining negotiations. Thus, the
Court cannot grant US Airways prospective immunity from any legal action by the West
Pilots. But based on the representation at oral argument that the seniority list is unlike other
matters addressed in collective bargaining, it is unlikely the West Pilots could successfully
allege claims against US Airways merely for not insisting that USAPA continue to advocate
for the Nicolau Award. See Davenport v. Int’l Broth. of Teamsters, AFL-CIO, 166 F.3d 356,
361-62 (D.C. Cir. 1999) (addressing, without deciding, “the proper standard for determining
whether an employer can be implicated in a union’s breach of duty&rdquo😉."

"IT IS FURTHER ORDERED the Clerk of Court shall enter judgment dismissing
Counts I and III of the complaint and in favor of US Airline Pilots Association on Count II
of the complaint stating US Airline Pilots Association’s seniority proposal does not breach
its duty of fair representation provided it is supported by a legitimate union purpose."
DATED this 11th day of October, 2012.

 

[luvthe9]

These are not a "snippets", it is the bottom line. Judge Silver could not have made it more clear and direct in her order.

"This conclusion places US Airways in a difficult position. At the present time, it is
not possible to predict what will result from the collective bargaining negotiations. Thus, the
Court cannot grant US Airways prospective immunity from any legal action by the West
Pilots. But based on the representation at oral argument that the seniority list is unlike other
matters addressed in collective bargaining, it is unlikely the West Pilots could successfully
allege claims against US Airways merely for not insisting that USAPA continue to advocate
for the Nicolau Award. See Davenport v. Int’l Broth. of Teamsters, AFL-CIO, 166 F.3d 356,
361-62 (D.C. Cir. 1999) (addressing, without deciding, “the proper standard for determining
whether an employer can be implicated in a union’s breach of duty&rdquo😉."

"IT IS FURTHER ORDERED the Clerk of Court shall enter judgment dismissing
Counts I and III of the complaint and in favor of US Airline Pilots Association on Count II
of the complaint stating US Airline Pilots Association’s seniority proposal does not breach
its duty of fair representation provided it is supported by a legitimate union purpose."
DATED this 11th day of October, 2012.

Pretty much plain and painfully clear, direct also..... This is what must have set Move2 off at the meet and get beat.

 

[luvthe9]

Is Nic4Us still calling for Thanksgiving job action? I don't know. Where is the fellow?

 

[cleardirect]

As has been stated many times. Nobody cares what the list looked like in 2005 anymore. Not even Doug. AOL is the only folks on the property that is looking to turn back time by 7 years. We want a way out of this mess in the next 7 years we all have to accept it is almost 2013, not 2005. Like it or not the east list has changed way too much in the last 7 years and is cranking up to change even faster in the coming years. From a vote point of view under the current t/a there is no way to get a nic passed. So the only option left for AOL is the courts. Using the past 7 years as a template we are looking at at least another 5 years for that route. But the good news is by that time the east will have retired enough people to make the point all but moot. According to the company even the newhires will be upgrading by then.

You ignored my question. Show your work.

How many east F/O without the merger would not have upgraded?

How many east F/O's using the Nicolau will not upgrade?

You made the statement MOST east F/O would not upgrade under the Nic.

Prove it.