OCT/NOV 2012 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Move2CLT]

It is two months shy of 2013. Your little fantasy took place in 2005. Get over it, the rest of the world has.
By the way, the East is hiring now, and you have furloughees. My, my how has the world changed.

Nothing has changed KFC fan boy.

Get over it.

Nic is it.

 

[Move2CLT]

Hit the room, and clean up your filthy mouth. Cursing like you do all the time is ignorance verbalized.

Ignorance verbalized said the embodiment of ignorance.

A decade of LOA93 and zero to show for it.

 

[Move2CLT]

It is about to start the year 2013. That was 8, EIGHT years ago. It means NOTHING now. We have moved way, way past your little spot in time. You are dreaming if you think anybody is going to play like it is 2005 anymore. That was when you found the lottery ticket. You still can't cash it. It expired.

You think your delay negates the PID? LMAO!

You've just jumped another notch on the moron level.

Coming up on a decade on LOA93 with no end in sight as the company is about to go en banc on your asses.

 

[Ames]

Ummm, maybe that is because you haven't won anything in Silvers Court????

That doesn't stop the eastholes from claiming victory - you didn't win anything either. Read the transcripts.

 

[Move2CLT]

Its official easties, the company is going to appeal Silver's ruling.

Came straight out of the crew news.

LMAO!!!

What's another few years on LOA 93?

 

[Ames]

I thought you might be the one to rise to the bait. What do any of the events you listed have to do with the SLI dispute. Oh yeah, EVERYTHING is about that for some of you. You calling anybody is a whack job is a laugh.

Rise to the bait? You are oh, so clever! The events I listed demonstrate that your side has some real idiots. You highlite one guy who says he hates you. WTF does that have to do with the SLI dispute? I call 'em as I see 'em and I realize you fit quite well into that group of idiots.

 

[Ames]

Not exactly accurate. Yeager was in the back seat of an F-15 (either an E model or a trainer) the PIC and pilot of the plane was an Air Force Captain. I am sure he was allowed to hold the stick for a bit but he was in no way shape or form the PIC.

I know Yeager and would be willing to bet that, although that AF Capt was there for legalities, Yeager was flying. His ego wouldn't have it any other way.

 

[Ames]

You also can't wait for Kasher to pay.

Oooops.

Now that's funny!

 

[Ames]

Knowing that General Yeager has a legendary ego, I'm sure the conversation on the ICS went something like this:

Yeager: "Captain..."

Captain: "Yes Sir?"

Yeager:" Pard, I know you signed for this here jet but I'm a gonna be doin' all the flyin'...any questions son?"

Captain:" No sir, have all the fun you want, just don't end my career!"

You must know him, too. Couldn't have been any more accurate.

 

[Ames]

At the crew news today Parker won't be able to divulge much about the NDA sessions. But he probably has a good sense of how they are progressing. I'll even hazard a guess that he already knows if the merger is go or no.

If it's a no then I expect status quo going forward. No hurry, let the pilots resolve this, company will listen to USAPA's proposal, etc. The status quo has been very good to Doug. Bad news for east and west pilots.

If it's a go, neither the Nic nor DOH (or something new and improved) has been ratified. We would need to return to negotiations, put them on hyper drive, get to a tentative agreement and send it out for a ratification vote. That would take some months. Even if Parker said it must be the Nic, it would be a lengthy process with no guarrantee of a speedy ratification.

Why not just submit two separate lists for seniority negotiations (a three way) which could conceivably be resolved between the two unions or ultimately through the McKaskill-Bond process. We are operating under two lists today. For all intents and purposes, that is the reality.

Who represents the west in this scenario?

This allows USAPA to disinherit the Nic without harming the west. I don't see any liability on the part of the company.

How does ucrapa disinherit the Nic without harming the west? You don't see any liability on the part of the company? Read the transition agreement.

Who represents the west in this scenario? USAPA does, using west personnel, through an augmented and bifurcated Merger Committee.

Good luck finding west personnel that would go along with this little scheme. And, really, since when does ucrapa represent west pilots in any way, shape or form?
Q.E.D.

Do you actually think the west would stand for that? Think again.

 

[luvthe9]

Its official easties, the company is going to appeal Silver's ruling.

Came straight out of the crew news.

LMAO!!!

What's another few years on LOA 93?

Good! Although you as a source is never one to be trusted. If so, it is time for another billboard in Tempe . And you get to pay.
Actually it is great. This thing is never going to be put together, and if Parker makes another try on AA, or is pushed because another airline tries to hook up with AA, it is tied up in court by himself. Then USAPA can appeal it after that. Let's hope it is true.

 

[Ames]

The future is now history and underscores where the Nic logic failed. The snapshot taken back then represented a distorted and invalid view regarding the value of the east franchise. PHX/LAS did not lead the way to historic profits dragging the east operation on its coat tails, but rather quite the opposite can be argued.

If the Nic were implemented tomorrow based on the original PID it would generate enormous training costs and internal redistribution of seats and domiciles. The company is already on record that such a scenario would not be acceptable.

Total BS. Your little delay program may have gotten you some upgrades but it won't get you, essentially, a do over. Your assumption about training costs is BS as well because you assume a bump and flush and that has already been agreed not to happen.

 

[luvthe9]

You must know him, too. Couldn't have been any more accurate.

What did you fly him once in the back, and now you are best buds? Probably the case.

 

[luvthe9]

I remember a bunch of idiot easties saying something along those lines as well.

How'd that work out?

worked out fine. We aren't on any list with you are we? Exactly what everybody wants. You guys dangling out there causing trouble for the rest of the airline. Maybe you get lopped off.

 

[EastUS1]

I know Yeager and would be willing to bet that, although that AF Capt was there for legalities, Yeager was flying. His ego wouldn't have it any other way.

Not everyone can be as truly humble and "respectful" as yourself. 😉 Add to that the fact that that man's actually done some notable things in his life...You?

Seriously; is it something in the water out there?....?