OCT/NOV 2012 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[luvthe9]

Hope you had a great holiday! Lacrosse fall ball season, spring to come, kids home, but gotta disagree, free forum, anything goes all a choice, and prevail at what? In case you haven't noticed totalthermonuculardetonation got triggered the day ALPA's merger policies were allowed to be modified by any group that saw fit to swing the weathervain in it's direction! Flawed character? PLEEZ participation is a choice just as all of us choose the scrutiny, including yourself! BTW MERRY XMAS, and disagree the WEST is tilting at windmills !

He just has sour grapes because the surfer boy (Mr. my money is on Doug Parker) can't be number one in PHX.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

He just has sour grapes because the surfer boy (Mr. my money is on Doug Parker) can't be number one in PHX.

Wanting us accept conditions totally unacceptable to him, so he can be number 1 in PHX his last 2 years! PATHETIC!

 

[prechilill]

My, my, my you kids are worked up. Don't worry, it's going to be over sooner than you think. It's going to be EPIC. Sleep tight kiddies. Let me tell you the story of young David, the apple of God's eye.....

Yes, the thieves certainly are worked up tonight CB. I wonder why all the emotion over a closed issue? I mean, DOH is like a crew meal! Right? Errrr... Ummmm....Well.....hmmmm...

 

[cactusboy53]

You better call Fergie. The guys he told to pass on the recalls are going to sue him and Leonidas. AA is recalling a bunch of pilots, pilots going on top of the furloughed West guys Fergie told to stay off the property. Nice move. Did Marty Harper advise this as a strategy? Parker himself said their would be no recalls and no West hiring. Are you guys going to rethink your scorched earth furloughed ideas now that it has come home to roost?

Dear Mr. Red-Headed Step-Child of lies;

Since you LIED about "Fergie" above, I thought now would be a great time for you to review some of his campaign videos. He takes the time to instruct you on how your logic is FLAWED, and how it continues to bite you in the backside:

https://www.youtube....F4&feature=plcp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAoU73kmK8E&feature=plcp

Wye don't you take the time to put your emotions in check, and watch the video. The truth shall set you free!!

 

[prechilill]

Your first indiscretion was trying to put Joe Monda beneath a new hire. He had 17 yrs continuous service. Never even furloughed.

Joe M was placed appropriately on the combined list. I'm elated he still has a job. One day, he will be rewarded for his years and years and years and years of hard work, multiple bankruptcies with imminent liquidation. One day Joseph M will be a captain. One day- he simply has to wait his turn, side by side with Dave O. The two, immortalized together on our joint list. How wonderful!!!

 

[Claxon]

Yes, the thieves certainly are worked up tonight CB. I wonder why all the emotion over a closed issue? I mean, DOH is like a crew meal! Right? Errrr... Ummmm....Well.....hmmmm...

And the wrench keeps turning prchilill. Your great wisdom on pilot issues is only exceeded by your mechanic union insightful remarks in 2002. Keep scrolling down the page, you make sense to yourself, enjoy.

http://www.airlinefo...__30#entry29454

 

[Claxon]

Prechilill wisdom, Franke was your man.
http://www.airlineforums.com/topic/2162-mechanics-turn-down-the-concessions/page__st__30#entry29456

 

[Claxon]

Joe M was placed appropriately on the combined list. I'm elated he still has a job. One day, he will be rewarded for his years and years and years and years of hard work, multiple bankruptcies with imminent liquidation. One day Joseph M will be a captain. One day- he simply has to wait his turn, side by side with Dave O. The two, immortalized together on our joint list. How wonderful!!!

Prechilill quote in link below.

"By the way, I did not include the ten million in maintenance fines AWA got nor did I mention AWA was hours away from being shut down for maintenance record errors.

http://www.airlineforums.com/topic/2162-mechanics-turn-down-the-concessions/page__st__30#entry29456

 

[EastUS1]

Then you go talking about David and God in the context of this entire matter.

Such grandiose lunacy is sadly typical of infantile narcicissts who fantasize themselves the center of the universe.

 

[EastUS1]

Let me tell you the story of young David, the apple of God's eye.....

While I'm considerably less disposed than yourself to presume on His Will....Let me give you a hint here: It's a bit less likely than you imagine that you're truly "the apple of God's eye...."...little "King David" 😉

 

[EastUS1]

This is your cue to laugh heartily as though you haven't a care in the world.

Your nonsense doesn't concern me. In truth....I almost feel sorry for you.

 

[cactusboy53]

I'm a little weary of the faceless volley back & forth. You east folk have even outed some of your own that oppose your date of hire land grab.

Many of you have guessed correctly. I have the same moniker that I use everywhere: Cactusboy53. It's part of my e-mail address.

I am Dave Simmons. A PHX based pilot on the Airbus, and a current PHX representative. It is my goal to represent my PHX based pilots to the best of my ability.

It is my agrument that simply changing the name of the CBA & its Constitution & Bylaws does not allow the new CBA to cherry pick what portions of the contracts, letters of agreements & side letters that it wishes to follow. The Nicolau seniority list is the only existing legal seniority list, and IMHO it will be the only one used in a JCBA within our organization and/or with any merger parnter. Contrary to the exclamation "We've WON!!", you have won delay and nothing else. Further, you have most certainly lost countless monies, benefits and time off.

So how about it cyber-kiddies? Who be you? I could guess, but let's face it.....your monikers aren't nearly as much a give away as an e-mail address.

Who is:

• MUTATIS MUTANDIS
• luvthe9
• Claxon
• nevergiveup
• EastUS1
• A320 Driver
• end_of_alpa
• nycbusdriver
• Phoenix
• Walmartgreeter

Step up. Be a man (or woman) and claim your bad-self. We already know how right you are, tell us who you are. Don't be affraid. Hiding behind a keyboard no way to go through life.

Dave

 

[cleardirect]

The other solution that could work also is to sell the west off, now wouldn't that be special..

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have been hoping for that for years. Never going to happen. But hey next time Parker is at the crew news make the suggestion.

Love to hear his answer.

 

[EastUS1]

Step up. Be a man ..... Hiding behind a keyboard no way to go through life.

So...You're up for my long-established wager then? 😉 "Step up. Be a man". PM if interested. Minor recreation aloft should prove no issue for a Biblical Hero, "the apple of God's eye" and "Hiding behind a keyboard no way to go through life." 😉

Mouthy, petty little politicians bore me to tears.

 

[cleardirect]

You pursued an award that was out of bounds with respect to ALPA merger policy. A WINDFALL. You should have done the right thing. You didn't. Your group caused the entire mess we have today. Someone with INTEGRITY would never have allowed it. It is not David vs Goliath. It is a group that will not stand for a windfall.

You throw windfall around like a toy.

The Nicolau, career expectations. An east captain and a west captain both remain captains. A furloughed pilot expected to be furloughed and recalled to the bottom of the list.

DOH a west captain goes junior to a east furloughed pilot. You had better look up the definition of windfall. Figure out what integrity is. A group with integrity would never allow a furloughed pilot to be senior to a captain.