U.S Pilot Labor Thread, 8/10 - 8/17

[exB717Flyer]

I'm seeing a lot of "sore winners" from our friends West of the 'river.

It's an unfortunate consequence of the battles the East has waged on the West. We could've had a joint contract last Fall when the company was profitable but instead we get lawsuits and the "tyranny of the majority". A victory no matter how small is worthy of celebration.

 

[Elevation]

Yeah EastUS is back! Where have you been old chum?

 

[nostradamus]

It's an unfortunate consequence of the battles the East has waged on the West. We could've had a joint contract last Fall when the company was profitable but instead we get lawsuits and the "tyranny of the majority". A victory no matter how small is worthy of celebration.

When you send human waste in an envelope, when you harass an office and its members with phone calls rife with threats and foul language, one should expect a battle. Your perpetrator actions while complaining of victim hood is common amongst the less than desirable citizens of this world.

west pilots complain about compensation for the last few years while working for bottom of the barrel for 25 years, is another example of being the cause of a situation you are claiming to be a victim of.

 

[nostradamus]

A real intelligent video by an alleged america west pilot is linked below. It was so funny I forgot to laugh. Do you like the Star Wars theme. Then check out the other video they have listed, a ufo sighting. This should not instill confidence that a mature adult is responsible for this. This will be removed by the "artist" shortly so enjoy while you can.


For an alleged america west pilot idea of humor, click here

 

[jetjok1]

Your posts are so idiotic I don't know where to begin. I hope you're not a pilot and I PRAY you're not a negotiator. If that's the case then we're all screwed and you'll undoubtedly have us working for free because "the revenue just isn't there."

I suggest you talk to somebody with some training in economics, finance, maybe a negotiator. If revenue was the sole driver of pay then people would be quiting Goldman Sachs in order to get a job with WalMart. You might want to consider yields and profit/operating margins when determining what the company can afford. At times I am hopeful that we can restore this profession and then I go and read a post from the likes of you. Please tell me you're not a pilot.

By the way, Ryan Air which is arguably the lowest cost operator in the world pays first year captains $209/hr to fly a 737.

just out of curiosity do all you easties who frequent this board with all your years in the bizz believe Machtuck's assertion that the company just doesn't generate enough revenue to give us industry parity?????????????????? Eastus, goodiebutoldie, phoenix, jetjoke??? Is this the prevailing attitude out east?

Wow-I think I've posted a few times on these boards and you're already name calling. Nice show of maturity. Were you salivating while writing this post. I think I see the slop stains. Show some respect. I mostly read the posts so I can develop a picture of what the poster is like. You seem to fit the west profile that I read here.

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

When you send human waste in an envelope, when you harass an office and its members with phone calls rife with threats and foul language, one should expect a battle. Your perpetrator actions while complaining of victim hood is common amongst the less than desirable citizens of this world.

Here we go again. One more time, which defendant did those things?

 

[EastUS]

So, you go after guys who made web board posts, brilliant. Simply brilliant. Unless there was an ulterior motive. Nah, usapa would never stoop that low, I guess it was just another usapa sheer genious move.

"just another usapa sheer genious move."

I assume that you meant genius? No matter. So..what's the west notions of any appropriate remedy for mailers of excrement/phone saboteurs/pranksters and the like? Just curious.

As for "Here we go again. One more time, which defendant did those things?" If those that did had the slightest bit of "INTEGRITY"..they'd never have done such in the first place, and can hardly be expected to own up to such blatant insanity after the fact....so..one has to start somehwere....

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

"just another usapa sheer genious move."

I assume that you meant genius? No matter. So..what's the west notions of any appropriate remedy for mailers of excrement/phone saboteurs/pranksters and the like? Just curious.

As for "Here we go again. One more time, which defendant did those things?" If those that did had the slightest bit of "INTEGRITY"..they'd never have done such in the first place, and can hardly be expected to own up to such blatant insanity after the fact.

I don't condone those things any more than I condone you going after the wrong guys.

 

[EastUS]

I don't condone those things any more than I condone you going after the wrong guys.

OK..Easy fix for that..bring forth the "right guys"....Yeah..that's what I thought...nevermind then.

"INTEGRITY MATTERS"..Uh huh...if you all say so out there anyway. I've been pretty much underwhelemd by that BS thus far, especially when that tag line's been posted by obvious frauds and the like many times over.

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

So, usapa says they got feces in the mail? Well go after the guy who mailed the feces, don't grab someone who made a web post and call him guilty of feces mailing just because he happens to be on the seniority list that you claim the feces came from.

Its downright rotten to claim folks who you grabbed for a web board post are feces mailers.

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

If you got the feces at all, it may have come from an east pilot for all anyone knows.

 

[EastUS]

If you got the feces at all, it may have come from an east pilot for all anyone knows.

Ah!..Yes!! How could I have missed something so obvious!?? That goes right along with the super-secret commando raid into St Louis when we set up those poor guys with that ridiculous hanging doll, then bribed some ramp workers to complain..and even called the TV news locals...yep..that's the answer all right. No one out there's the least bit to blame for anything...It's all a vast and evil east conspiracy!

Let's have yet another round of "INTEGRITY MATTERS"...just for laughs. "There I was, saving hundreds of troops on the ground in my "gray jet", launched from from my nameless aircraft carrier, in my unspecified and amazingly vague war tour..during some year that I don't even know the number of"/etc.....Ah yeah..your west guys have got "INTEGRITY" nailed down flat...You all must be so very, very proud in that regard.....yes indeed.

There's a lot of things to work out to ever get our "sides" together...and any "Trust Us..we didn't do it!!" from the west side's not much of a helpful suggestion by itself.

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

Ah!..Yes!! How could I have missed something so obvious!?? That goes right along with the super-secret commando raid into St Louis when we set up those poor guys with that ridiculous hanging doll, then bribed some ramp workers to complain..and even called the TV news locals...yep..that's the answer all right. No one out there's the least bit to blame for anything...It's all a vast and evil east conspiracy!

Let's have yet another round of "INTEGRITY MATTERS"...just for laughs.

Ha ha ha, that was funny. But you know what? If I were rich and had a hundred grand or more, or if I had roughly 2700 pilots paying me a couple hundred a month, I could file a law suit in federal court charging those very things. Of course I'd need an east spy, to forward me all of your private web posts to help me weave my bs web of a case.

 

[EastUS]

Ha ha ha, that was funny. But you know what? If I were rich and had a hundred grand or more, or if I had roughly 2700 pilots paying me a couple hundred a month, I could file a law suit in federal court charging those very things. Of course I'd need an east spy, to forward me all of your private web posts to help me weave my bs web of a case.

Seems a pity that you're without such resources then...maybe you should join a Union.

In any case...we've a long, long way to go to ever get these groups unified at any level...and management's laughing themselves sick all the while.

Have a good evening sir.

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

There exists no court challenge to Nicolau.

Just file a federal rico case against Nicolau and the two pilot neutrals. You could throw in a bunch of other guys too, like maybe Prater or Rice, for instance. It would be a sure fire winner.