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In other words, you "suffered" much less than many of your East peers will gain, hence a convenient change of heart...
Jim
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November 8th Update and News
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electicjet98, how is the fishing going? Catching any?
IIRC, West was in the early stages of Section 6 when the merger came along, and negotiations were halted to concentrate on a single contract. They also gave notice under the TA in late 2007/early 2008 that they wanted to resume Section 6 but the company put that off. Then USAPA became the CBA and the thought of West Section 6 disappeared.
Jim
They also gave notice under the TA in late 2006/early 2007 that they wanted to resume Section 6 but the company put that off. Then USAPA became the CBA and the thought of West Section 6 disappeared.
BoeingBoy said:
How dare you make a characterization of me like that. You don't know me. I put that merger behind me virtually immediately after Kagel was announced. Just because you probably screamed like a stuck pig doesn't mean we are all so short sighted.
Nope, since I don't talk to all East pilots. If most of those who post here are any indication, though.....
Jim
Apparently I didn't recall correctly or recalled from a different group's thread (AFA/IAM), so I apologize for the first part apparently being in error.Regarding your comments last week, Boeing, your way off.
That West submitted the proper request for separate Section 6 negotiations is not in doubt - see this article for further proof.
Why West Section 6 talks went nowhere in early 2008 doesn't matter - the West MEC satisfied the TA requirements for separate Section 6 negotiations - the TA that both ALPA and the company signed. I'd note that West had a staffed negotiating committee until USAPA was elected as the CBA and I'm sure you're not saying that the company bowed to every ALPA wish so declined to enter Section 6 talks without ALPA's OK.
That West submitted the proper request for separate Section 6 negotiations is not in doubt - see this article for further proof.
Why West Section 6 talks went nowhere in early 2008 doesn't matter - the West MEC satisfied the TA requirements for separate Section 6 negotiations - the TA that both ALPA and the company signed. I'd note that West had a staffed negotiating committee until USAPA was elected as the CBA and I'm sure you're not saying that the company bowed to every ALPA wish so declined to enter Section 6 talks without ALPA's OK.
Jim
Oh come on, Boeing. Look at the date, March 14 2008, 1 month before ALPO got the boot. Negotiations were NOT well under way. Knock off your spin, easily disprovable.
.As usual, Jim is correct. I think his record of such as well as his analysis of the "cult" is what so infuriates them.
I'm not sure these links will work, but they are for the letters from JMac on 4/18/08 stating the current status of AWA pilots section 6: Became amendable 12/2006; separate section 6 between AWA pilots and management began 4/14/2008 with the next agreed upon date of 5/28/2008.
FO Bradford replied on 4/25/2008 that it is USAPA's intention to only negotiate a singe combined agreement.
http://www.awappa.org/Uploads/mcilvenna%20...e%20sec%206.pdf
http://www.awappa.org/Uploads/bradford%20l...a%20sec%206.pdf