US Airways Pilots Labor Thread 12/8-12/15

[Metroyet]

Clearly the company is party to the TA that states new hires go first. The company needs to accept the consequences of not complying with that contract. The simple solution is to pay protect an equal number of the most senior west furloughees until the east new hires are on the street. Of course, this would be a small financial burden to the company, but they DID sign the TA and agreed to furough new hires first.

Why should the company pay a dime? Agreements aren't worth the paper they're written on, Remember.

 

[Tiger 1050]

Did the Confederacy print money? Yes or no.

Yes.

http://www.csaquotes.com/images/831_T50CR361A-14535.jpg

 

[PA18]

It's important to note that the comparative ease of the DAL/NWA integration is due in large part to the relative similarity in their demographics.

Both are large major airlines. (Real airlines, if you will.) They are close to the same size. They both have extensive international routes, and both have a large number of wide-body airplanes.

And both companies began operations within three years of each other, in the 1920's.

The only notable demographic difference is that the DAL pilot list is somewhat younger, owing to the large number of early retirements prior to the bankruptcy and merger. However, one could argue that the DAL pilots have already benefited from their own attrition, in that they were most likely slotted on the combined list with regard to the positions they gained from it.

The new US Airways, in comparison, is a hodge-podge of regional airlines, with only one side of the most recent merger having only a handful of wide-bodies. The oldest of the melange of airlines started operating in 1939, and the youngest of the mix in 1983. And the larger, and demographically older side experienced the worst stagnation in the history of any surviving airline. (Which is hardly the fault of the other side.)

The point is, most USA pilots would probably gladly trade their situation for that of the NWA/DAL pilots.

Of course, that does not mean that you won't hear any DAL or NWA pilots howling on a hotel van or in a food court about how badly they got screwed.

 

[pilotn79]

Did the Confederacy print money? Yes or no.

Considering I have a Georgia note passed down along with the family Bible dating back Sherman's visit in 1864. I'll take that as a yes.
Thanks for playing.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Of course, that does not mean that you won't hear any DAL or NWA pilots howling on a hotel van or in a food court about how badly they got screwed.

Ah. There's the key. If both sides start howling, then the decision was probably about as fair as can ever be in situations like this.

However, if one side is howling, and the other side is giving each other the high five while grinning from ear to ear, then the decision is likely not so fair.

 

[electricjet98]

However, if one side is howling, and the other side is giving each other the high five while grinning from ear to ear, then the decision is likely not so fair.

Or perhaps, one side was woefully unprepared to face reality with their overinflated ego, while the other side just thankful that the most pompous of their group was not allowed to make decisions for their group.

 

[electricjet98]

early 80 hire date.

Just trying to make sense of your quote:

"Not for me, the list does effect my position."

 

[nostradamus]

Or perhaps, one side was woefully unprepared to face reality with their overinflated ego, while the other side just thankful that the most pompous of their group was not allowed to make decisions for their group.

Neither of their sides went to another country and crossed a picket line or had management pilots that flew drugs.

 

[luvthe9]

Just trying to make sense of your quote:

"Not for me, the list does effect my position."

Sorry I forget to put the "not" in there, I can see why I confused you.

 

[Tiger 1050]

Neither of their sides went to another country and crossed a picket line or had management pilots that flew drugs.

Okay! That's it. I am now convinced that I am in fact living proof that deja vu actually exists!!!!!! To prove my hypothesis I expect to read this same statement by Nostadamus in the near future...

 

[hp_fa]

You mean like these?

 

[Phoenix]

Considering I have a Georgia note passed down along with the family Bible dating back Sherman's visit in 1864. I'll take that as a yes.
Thanks for playing.

Your a quick one.. or not. 😉

 

[Tiger 1050]

You mean like these?

Yes! That's it exactly! Whew! I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one?

 

[nostradamus]

It is interesting all the integrity talk from the west. In order to survive in the early days america west airline pilots crossed picket lines in Australia and your management pilots flew drugs to stay alive for an Australian investor.

Your pilots were flying under the influence and your ceo liked to drive inebriated all his life.

It is everyones moral responsibility to acknowledge this and assure this attempted move into accreditation by society does not take place.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Okay! That's it. I am now convinced that I am in fact living proof that deja vu actually exists!!!!!! To prove my hypothesis I expect to read this same statement by Nostadamus in the near future...

Funny how truth keeps creeping back into the argument.