US Pilots Labor Discussion 6/2- STAY ON TOPIC AND OBSERVE THE RULES

[aquagreen73s]

I think you can speak more about AOL than you care to admit.

Well, you must be tossing darts for that assumption. The fact is that nothing was resolved on Friday other than two out of three decided they didn't want to deviate from the general ripeness rule. Fine. The en banc option appears viable but regardless, we'll be doing it again in a year or two - or three - or four. The reality for all pilots is the sands of time.

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

Who really cares what went on with the teamsters at UAL. As far as UAL goes, it is even worse than this place. I feel sorry for the Continental folks, getting dragged into your mess. Baptiste and Wilder were absolutely correct in their blog about Wake and his Kangaroo Court. They are the smartest bunch going.

Myopic to the last

 

[luvthe9]

Myopic to the last

It's always been one sided flow coming from your pipe. No wonder you lost your following here..........

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

It's always been one sided flow coming from your pipe. No wonder you lost your following here..........

Thanks for illustrating my point

 

[luvthe9]

Well, you must be tossing darts for that assumption. The fact is that nothing was resolved on Friday other than two out of three decided they didn't want to deviate from the general ripeness rule. Fine. The en banc option appears viable but regardless, we'll be doing it again in a year or two - or three - or four. The reality for all pilots is the sands of time.

Nothing resolved? OK, the first thing resolved is we shut you up on the damages you were all counting on. That was just the beginning. My next favorite was you pushing Addington way before the ripeness was a factor, if it ever was. That elicited a nice dissertation from the 9th on how the Nic does not have to be in it. If you call that nothing, well I can't help you there. Also got the legal trust to pull down the Leonidas site. That was the icing.

 

[End of USAPA]

It is fun to watch the critters come out of the cracks chasing a false light

 

[luvthe9]

Thanks for illustrating my point

No thanks required, you deserve all the credit.

 

[nic4us]

It IS Done. Get over it.

This doesn't meet the requirements for en banc hearing. You can refile AFTER we ratify a new FAIR contract.

Wow, you east posters really need to take a deep breath before we end up finding you like a rock star who took auto erotic asphycsiation just a little too far.

Best heed your own advice. Get over it.

It will be dne when the Nic is in a ratified contract at LCC. Hope you are still around to see that day.

Oh...by the way...just wanted to let you know that after almost five years from the time America West Airlines aquired the bankrupt Usairways, my paycheck no longer has the AWA logo on it, and for the first time my bank reported a direct deposit from USAirways, guess we are all one big happy family now.

 

[AWE Dog]

I have said it before, I don't ever want to merge with the west no matter what method. The east,west fence we have now works just fine. If there is going to be a DFR I would like to see the Nic on trail. The plaintiffs and Wake did all they could to stay away from the Nic itself. It's going to be expensive$$, remember the west helps pay east legal costs.

 

[nic4us]

Also got the legal trust to pull down the Leonidas site. That was the icing.

Okay, I am confused. Are you taking credit for shutting down the AOL website?

 

[aquagreen73s]

It's going to be expensive$$, remember the west helps pay east legal costs.

And remember that the East pays Parker handsomely through LOA 93.

 

[End of USAPA]

USAPA dodged a bullet on Friday, I am sure the west has more coming. Some on here cant figure that out. USAPA hasn't accomplished anything Bradfrod promised except running the clock. That could have happened under ALPA or any other union for that matter. LOA 93 will be here for quite a while.

 

[Poug Darker]

Fair in whose eyes? Yours? USAPA's? An independent arbitrator? A judge?

Jim

I would posit that a contract that was ratified my the majority of the union membership would be considered fair in the eyes of any third party overseer.
Otherwise, it would fail and would not be ratified.
Cheers.

 

[nycbusdriver]

If only USAPA had experience in negotiating with Parker. I hope they aren't too surprised to see a "Gone Fishin'" sign on Parker's door for the next 5-6 years.

If USAPA prevails on the LOA 93 pay grievance, Parker will be chomping at the bit to do something quick. He will be far from absent.

And another though occurred to me: There is a maybe 90 day window of opportunity for Parker to hedge his bets on that arbitration. I think it's a toss up as to how it will pay out. But he can make it ALL go away if he gets his negotiators to the table and hammers out a new contract before the arbitrator rules. The window is closing fast, and now that there is a federal mediator, I'm not sure it can even be done if the sessions have to take place in her presence.

If only USAPA had experience in negotiating with Parker. I hope they aren't too surprised to see a "Gone Fishin'" sign on Parker's door for the next 5-6 years. And if they happen to get another wish out of their genie and get their snapbacks, I predict Parker (or his much less genial successor) would open east bases for west pilots to keep costs in check.

Yes, open an east base for west pilots to keep costs in check. Just like he opened a PHX base for east pilots to accomplish the same thing over these past four years? Is that what you think?

 

[cleardirect]

I would posit that a contract that was ratified my the majority of the union membership would be considered fair in the eyes of any third party overseer.
Otherwise, it would fail and would not be ratified.
Cheers.

In that case I guess we can consider LOA 93 fair. It was ratified by the majority.

You don't need anything more.