If any of these guys, including Boeing Boy had read Baptiste and Wilder, they would have gotten a clue as to where this thing was heading the minute Wake went over the boundary line. Way over. We got more lectures on how the Nic would stand, when it was obvious it was an internal union affair from day one. Negotiable.
BS, even their old merger attorney Freund said that the list was negotiable. He wrote that in his court reply to the ill-conceived East MEC lawsuit against the West in June 2007. Notice how the West side can't come to grips with that. All told, West thinks anything less than NIC going forward is unfair. The 9th didn't have to comment on that, but they did. Their statement made it clear that the NIC need not be the list as long as what comes out is "fair." Fairness in any future DFR will not be skewed by a home-field advantage judge who excludes most of one side's case. Fairness in the future will be decided by a jury with full access to both sides of the argument.
OK ALPA got tanked. When are you guys going to let it go? 10 years from now are you still going to be crowing about how you got rid of ALPA?
ALPA was not corrupt. It is the east pilots that have refused not ALPA. ALPA decided to try and appease the east that was their mistake. They decided to hold multiple meetings to try and force the west to give up our rights. If anyone has reason to blame ALPA it is the west. But we place the blame squarely where it belongs. On the east pilots.
Corrupt is fighting words, so I won't go there, but ALPA has a very lousy conflict of interest record lately, DAL (Duke case cost ALPA $54M), UAL ($45M settlement), TWA still out there with TWA pilots ahead, and who knows on MDA. In all but TWA, it appears it was ALPA's own MECs/MCs that created the DFRs. Unfortunately for ALPA, they have to defend DFR mistakes, regardless who is responsible for them. BTW, I doubt if ALPA will even exist in its present form 10 years from now.
You can place blame anywhere you want, but unless there is some kind of blatantly unfair staple, you'll never reach the threshold for a winning DFR. If ALPA were still in and the proposed CBA ignored NIC, you had the right to vote it down. ALPA's gone, no such veto vote any more, get over it. USAPA has no obligation to use NIC and they won't. You can whine all you want that anything less than NIC is unfair. You may even get a future district court win on that (anything is possible, I guess), but you won't get NIC as the only fair list past the Ninth. They didn't need to comment on the NIC, but they did. No objective read of their ruling and comments can be spun as positive toward the NIC surviving.
Your "perfect game" don't count when you been caught cheating, and no one cares if you hold the home run record, once you been caught with the corked bat.
To continue with your baseball analogy, you won at the district court with an umpire in your pocket. He got overturned on not-so-instant replay by the commissioner. Now, the game doesn't even show up in the record book. $2M down the drain. But the Ninth opinion, unless overturned by the SCOTUS, is now law.
Jake, neither Cleary or Bradford had anything to do with negotiating LOA93. The more you say it, the more you lose any credibility. You go down the road of the Caped Marauder. No one will take you seriously.
Clear, bringing up the JS wars again? Are you really that short of sticks and stones?
