US Pilots Labor Discussion

[UtterlyUdder]

And you need to mind your own f'ing business.

You need to leave this forum but you won't. You're nasty and you only see things your way. Miscreants like you don't change their spots but there will be a day of reckoning when you are forced to have DOH. That is, if you are a pilot and not some snot nosed kid.

 

[toganoflex]

You need to leave this forum but you won't. You're nasty and you only see things your way. Miscreants like you don't change their spots but there will be a day of reckoning when you are forced to have DOH. That is, if you are a pilot and not some snot nosed kid.

DOH? Please. I have ZERO worry about DOH. In fact, I dont think USAPA will be around in the not to distant future.



Now STFU.

 

[aquagreen73s]

but there will be a day of reckoning when you are forced to have DOH.

Now that is priceless. Good to see the whiskey is numbing your senses as you stand at an angle on the SS UsapaTitanic. Hang on there amigo. You are about to become a part of history as your hubris sinks to the deep dark bottom.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Priceless?? Click on the link below and check out the numbers. Best have the whiskey close by or your hand gun because it's a most ugly picture.

To the East: Somebody figure out which pilot on the East from the Nic list will take the biggest haircut financially and then look at the chart and ask yourselves has all of this rancor and vitriol been worth it? Especially in light of a potential assessment.

To the West: Where would you be wage wise if you accepted DOH?

I'm thinking that even if your raises were even 1 to 3 percent per year in 6 years you'd likely be better off in dollars and cents terms at least. IMO the longer this goes on the bigger the haircut

http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/...ockpit Cost per Block Hour - ALL AIRCRAFT.htm

 

[CV580ETOPS]

Can you guys act like professionals and stop calling each other names and acting like two year olds, PLEASE? You are making a mockery of yourselves and management is loving every minute of it. I can't believe some of you actually are in charge of making decisions in a flight deck. Pull it together, please. Jesus!

Stop trolling for a pilot boyfriend already. Its very unbecoming for a refined southern belle such as yourself

cv

 

[aquagreen73s]

To the West: Where would you be wage wise if you accepted DOH?

http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/Leonidas_Booklet_Issue_3.pdf

scroll to page 7.

I'm thinking that even if your raises were even 1 to 3 percent per year in 6 years you'd likely be better off in dollars and cents terms at least.

See above.

IMO the longer this goes on the bigger the haircut

Some have more time than others.

 

[CV580ETOPS]

Not so much. I just thought it bears repeating. [b] USPAPA is leading the faithful right down another DFW lawsuit[/b]. USAPA has bought nothing but delay. Money in Doug's pockets....NONE in ours. Go Mike! Hey, why don't you do another paper ad?

OK. I gotta ask. Whats a DFW lawsuit ? And does it have to be filed in Texas ??

cv

 

[toganoflex]

Priceless?? Click on the link below and check out the numbers. Best have the whiskey close by or your hand gun because it's a most ugly picture.

To the East: Somebody figure out which pilot on the East from the Nic list will take the biggest haircut financially and then look at the chart and ask yourselves has all of this rancor and vitriol been worth it? Especially in light of a potential assessment.

To the West: Where would you be wage wise if you accepted DOH?

I'm thinking that even if your raises were even 1 to 3 percent per year in 6 years you'd likely be better off in dollars and cents terms at least. IMO the longer this goes on the bigger the haircut

http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/...ockpit Cost per Block Hour - ALL AIRCRAFT.htm

Why do you care? How does this make a difference on your life?

Do you feel important here?

 

[SparrowHawk]

http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/Leonidas_Booklet_Issue_3.pdf

scroll to page 7.

Thanks for the link. Some of that was a bit over my head but I think I got the general point. Thank you.

Having been on here for quite a while many of the cast of characters on the one chart are names of people I don't particularly respect very much dating back to the BK's. Given the context of where we are today I think USAPA was created not so much to "Screw" the west as it was to enrich themselves at the expense of the entire pilot group.

They have somewhat of a track record in that regard. Some of your guy are no prize either.

 

[767one]

Usually in large company's the Labor Relations/Human Resources have a VP or Sr VP level person that reports directly to the Very top.

IMO Isom is involved because the data used to prepare the request for a Temporary injunction would come from Operations. Isom is also likely acting as point man as US wants it to look like their top people are on this due to the safety issues raised.

Regardless of whether there are real MTC issues or not or if the request for injunctive relief has merit doesn't really matter as the turd (In the form of the USAPA ad) is still floating in the bowl of public perception.

SH,


So this is sort of like the president of the US saying .....Boys I wan't yall to give me a report on weapons of mass destruction that concludes that there are weapons of mass destruction.


Bob

 

[SparrowHawk]

SH,


So this is sort of like the president of the US saying .....Boys I wan't yall to give me a report on weapons of mass destruction that concludes that there are weapons of mass destruction.


Bob

Yeah Kinda! Except if he was from PIT it would be, "I wan't yinz to give me a report on weapons of mass destruction that concludes that there are weapons of mass destruction."

 

[diamondcutter]

SparrowH. Is only here to stir things up . He is not in USAPA nor works here. He will act as if he is on Ur side then make fun of you on another thread. Just as he did making fun of pit. People or pilots or f/a. He has no dog in this fight. He is a pax. Yes on this board you are a PAX

 

[diamondcutter]

SparrowH. Is only here to stir things up . He is not in USAPA nor works here. He will act as if he is on Ur side then make fun of you on another thread. Just as he did making fun of pit. People or pilots or f/a. He has no dog in this fight. He is a pax. Yes on this board you are a PAX

 

[SparrowHawk]

SparrowH. Is only here to stir things up . He is not in USAPA nor works here. He will act as if he is on Ur side then make fun of you on another thread. Just as he did making fun of pit. People or pilots or f/a. He has no dog in this fight. He is a pax. Yes on this board you are a PAX

Actually I'd like to see a settlement so that things improve for everyone, Execs, CHQ, Flight Crews, Front liners, back liners and finally customers as that has been the cornerstone of my argument. Herb Kelleher said it best.'

“You put your employees first. If you truly treat your employees with respect, they will treat your customers well, your customers will come back, and that’s what makes your shareholders happy. So there is no constituency at war with any other constituency. Ultimately, it’s shareholder value that you’re producing”.

When/if US gets to that place then I'll either be dead or quiet.

 

[luvn737s]

SparrowH. Is only here to stir things up . He is not in USAPA nor works here. He will act as if he is on Ur side then make fun of you on another thread. Just as he did making fun of pit. People or pilots or f/a. He has no dog in this fight. He is a pax. Yes on this board you are a PAX

Maybe he's just Piney-ing for the way things used to be (or dreams they were).