US Pilots Labor Discussion

[luvthe9]

I believe prior to April 18, 2008

You believe everything and know nothing you have not been right on anything. Why do you keep embarrassing yourself?

 

[Move2CLT]

Eric Furguson, he's a doulble agent.

This is Eric. You figured it out. And spell my name correctly!

 

[luvthe9]

Chip,
Parker has the ability to be a leader and win the respect of the pilots,

No he does not that time has long past. He has proven he has ZERO leadership ability. He lets this fight go on for 6 years, the problem is the fight in his back yard and he does nothing. I disagree with you on this one.

 

[aquagreen73s]

Chip,
This was about the time where Parker called "time out", bringing things to a stop. It is the same period of time that USAPA presented the DOH list to Parker.....he didn't know what to do, so just called time out. Now things are tied up in the courts, due to lawsuits filed.

If Parker has the ability to stop everything, I think he also has the ability to make a proposal to USAPA that could be put out for a vote.....say, industry standard minus 10% and the company's own proppsal on seniority integration.....something in the middle. So you claim that the West pilots have no voice....maybe so, but Parker is using this to advance his own game. If the company really wants to end this mess they should put out something that has credibility in a vote....one man, one vote. That's fair! And I think there are a lot of pilots on each side that would like to see this deadlock removed, so it doesn't mean that the East with their higher numbers would out vote the West. But no, they want to keep things as they are because they are lining their pockets at the expense of the pilots. WHY CAN'T YOU SEE THAT?

Parker has the ability to be a leader and win the respect of the pilots, however, he is like a pervert and only thinks with the wrong head...in his case, his bank account.

breeze

You've hit the nail on the head my friend. This is all just a game to Parker and Kirby. We and our families are their entertainment.

 

[luvthe9]

You've hit the nail on the head my friend. This is all just a game to Parker and Kirby. We and our families are their entertainment.

Why do the west pilot let him get away with it?

 

[aquagreen73s]

Why do the west pilot let him get away with it?

Because he's got a strong majority of East enablers.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Chip,
This was about the time where Parker called "time out", bringing things to a stop.

Check your history - that was the date USAPA became the CBA. Contract negotiations resumed as soon as USAPA was ready, about June/July 2008. The only "time out" in 2008 was waiting for USAPA to get people ready to negotiate.

Jim

 

[luvthe9]

Because he's got a strong majority of East enablers.

Huh?

 

[mikey60]

Unlike some posters here, I have resources that go beyond Hogg and I don't need a 330 type to understand the Bus.

As for the second Captain refusing, who knew what his reasoning was. Maybe he saw it as an opportunity to go home. Maybe go back to his second, highly successful business that most of you east guys seem to have. Maybe he didn't want to pull the rug out from under Valerie for whatever reason. Too many what ifs there. So that fact is pointless.

And I have a bit more knowledge on the 330 than you think. No type, but I know enough. Go ahead, ask me a question. <_<

OK........why are you such a ####?

 

[Move2CLT]

Why do the west pilot let him get away with it?

Because we have a weak union that won't protect us.

 

[Move2CLT]

OK........why are you such a ####?

Don't ever call me pound signs again! :angry:

 

[aquagreen73s]

Huh?

Since April 18th, 2008, the West's existence has been consumed completely by surviving against the majority whose sole purpose in forming USAPA was to cram down that which they demanded in the arbitration and did not get. For the past three and a half years, we've been maliciously sued by our own union, excluded from every important committee, and at the same time we've had to work under a flight ops management that is all East. It is no coincidence that every benefit to this merger has so far flowed East, and it was all a part of a grand scheme to break the West. The trouble for the East and for Parker is that the West hasn't caved, nor will we ever. We've experienced the worst and there's really no more harm that can come our way. Separate ops is fine. Now it's a contest between the maniacal elements of the East and Parker. We on the West are just sitting back and watching and let me tell you, it's nice being an observer for a change. Tomorrow is going to be ugly for a certain group of East pilots who are the ones responsible for running USAPA off a cliff. Factor in a LOA93 loss and then we can all take a step back and evaluate where we are as a pilot group and where we can go henceforth.

 

[Move2CLT]

Allegiant rates are $131 for a first year captain (first year with the carrier) and $151 TOS (Pilot Pay Central). Heck, Horizon pays their CRJ700 Captains $121/hr TOS.

Jim

Wow. The east really is at the rock bottom.

 

[mrbreeze]

Wow. The east really is at the rock bottom.

AND.....nobody gives a crap about what you have to say.

I am blocking this dude.

breeze

 

[Move2CLT]

That's it. Run away. I guess when you see an RJ driver making as much as you do the only thing you can do is hide and avoid the reality I'm dishing out.