US Pilots Labor Discussion

[SparrowHawk]

WOW!! What put everyone's knickers in a twist? Things were pretty civil here the last few days. Any way I thought this article might be of interest given the current safety issues.

1st-class fliers: Safety first, but next up is lie-flat seat
By Charisse Jones, USA TODAY


What do first-class and business-class fliers want from an airline?

British Airways offers lie-flat beds on some flights.

That depends on the trip, and from what part of the world they're flying.

For most, it's safety first. But a seat that lies flat enough to mimic a bed is also valued for long overseas flights, according to a study released earlier this month by the GBTA Foundation, the Global Business Travel Association's research wing.

"What we saw through this survey was really that premium travelers are looking for comfort and convenience, as well as safety," says Joe Bates, the foundation's research director. "You can have comfort through service that's being offered, that higher class of service (or) … through entertainment options available to you."

Of the more than 1,650 premium-class fliers across the globe who were surveyed, 84% say that an airline's safety record and reputation matter most when deciding which carrier to fly. And 67% says it's important that the carrier offers seats that fully recline.

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Don't ask me what this survey means when a lie flat seat is nearly as important as safe operation. The 84% that ranked safety number one however does say something as well. Kind of make you wonder about the 16%

 

[A320 Driver]

No, it is not. It is same old, same old.

It is for those still here...

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Proudly so. Back in those days you had to have a pretty good understanding of the systems, whether you were the engineer, f/o, or captain. Nowadays, it's too much "well, I pushed the buttons (or moved the switches) like the checklist says but it didn't help - now what do I do." You may enjoy being a trained monkey, but I always liked being a pilot...

Private pilot day 1 - know thy airplane. To the day I retired, although flying the 737 longer and later, I knew the 727 better than the 737. Thankfully, the two had much in common.

Jim

JIM, BTW I flew as your engineer, many of us have bridged the ole generational gap, trained monkey KMA! MM!

 

[BoeingBoy]

Don't ask me what this survey means when a lie flat seat is nearly as important as safe operation.

It means that most people assume the carrier/plane they're flying on is safe. They never consider the bigger question - is it as safe as it could be.

Jim

 

[luvn737s]

yet another amateur wannabe engineer that has no offing clue.

Explain what part of my post is incorrect (if you even have a clue). You stated the APU can only be started off it's own battery. That's incorrect. Put your head down for the remainder of class.

 

[A320 Driver]

Explain what part of my post is incorrect (if you even have a clue). You stated the APU can only be started off it's own battery. That's incorrect. Put your head down for the remainder of class.

I don't think it will start without the APU battery switch on...but I'll find out!

Anything to settle an argument.

Driver B)

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Explain what part of my post is incorrect (if you even have a clue). You stated the APU can only be started off it's own battery. That's incorrect. Put your head down for the remainder of class.

http://www.smartcockpit.com/data/pdfs/plane/airbus/A330/misc/A330_Flight_Deck_and_Systems_Briefing_For_Pilots.pdf pg 32 on the ramp pushed back tug disconnected, PLZ DONATE ALL YOUR MONEY TO AOL!

 

[cleardirect]

Are you advocating not doing your flows at the appropriate times and triggers? This would be construed as an illegal job action, and violation of policy, procedure and flows.

Read your FOM. Flows are included. Involving yourself in the boarding process is not.

 

[cleardirect]

My God, you are so irrelevant.

Those were the good ol' days. Gone, but not forgotten (at least by you.)

This from a group of pilots that keep bringing up stuff from 10-20-30 years ago.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

This from a group of pilots that keep bringing up stuff from 10-20-30 years ago.

YEA we know how your group regards longevity! MM! YOU know it all!

 

[crazystnic]

Despite how much you and others would like to banish those who upset your fantasies, to paraphrase a line from SparrowHawk I was here before you and will probably be here after you're gone. Or I could shorten that to "Live with it."

Jim

sounds like you are saying you have been here longer and thus are senior to me. If so I say very good.
Seniority what a wonderful system that has run amuck!

but I'm pretty sure I'll be here a lot longer than you, I'm a lot younger!

 

[USA320Pilot]

US Airways' pilots expected to take cut in gross income from 2011 to 2012

See Story

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

OKAY we won't see a profit , WTF is new with TEAM T, DUH you MORON, get your hair transplant checked for brain invasion! MM!

 

[luvthe9]

US Airways' pilots expected to take cut in gross income from 2011 to 2012

What does the company give you for being thier puppet, you are the court jester by far, what are your sources saying now, How's that United merge coming.

 

[Phoenix]

What does the company give you for being thier puppet, you are the court jester by far, what are your sources saying now, How's that United merge coming.

He is the most consistent pilot in several categories. And I think he hasn't discharged a FAM weapon through the floor. At least he has that going for him.