US Pilots Labor Discussion

[apollo]

Really? How about you put some facts up? The drugs and drunk pilots were fired and jailed. As for the other stuff....proof?

Nope, same old East blather. Hey, delay that flight, and slow those taxi's down, write up those MEL's. you don't want the union goons to come after you do you?

You guys need a hugs, you are such victims. Good thing AWA bought you out, or you would be working in the lumber section at Lowes.

Ok I will prove the drove drunk, please provide proof of AWA purchase receipt.

Drove Drunk.

Your turn.

 

[BoeingBoy]

The former America West management and pilots have a consistent history of illegal activities. They flew drugs

Management pilots

drove drunk

Exec, not even a private pilot AFAIK

fondled a flight attendant while drunk

Exec according to nothing but rumor, not even a private pilot AFAIK

stole personal ID data

Management pilot, not proven

and try to intimidate pilots

Supposedly, and management pilots and several of those accused are on the East seniority list. A problem not confined to either side it seems.

There is a pattern here.

Your "pattern" consists of a few occurrences by different people, from both sides, and not restricted to pilots. In fact, you can only point to 2 west pilots caught in the same incident to even include pilots in your accusations. Quite a stretch creating a pattern from isolated incidences spread over what - 15 years or so.

But you get your ALPA money, that is the only thing that is important, right?

Ah, your only recourse - baseless accusations. You forgot being the ALPA rep who single-handedly stapled the Empire pilots or having "kin" on the West side...

Jim

 

[Move2CLT]

The former America West management and pilots have a consistent history of illegal activities. They flew drugs, flew drunk, drove drunk, fondled a flight attendant while drunk, stole personal ID data and try to intimidate pilots. There is a pattern here.

But you get your ALPA money, that is the only thing that is important, right?

Which one of your pilots sexually assaulted underage girls?

Which one of your pilots assaulted a hotel security guard?

How many passengers have east pilots murdered?

There is also a pattern here.

 

[Move2CLT]

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[Move2CLT]

No, I do not feel responsible for what management pilots do, in fact I am suing them right now for their unsafe practices. Usapa vs US Airways.

In addition to this an HP management pilot stole personal information of US Airways East Pilots and gave it to the former America West pilots. I do not feel responsible for any of the consistent deplorable actions of the current US Airways, former HP management actions.

Unsafe practices. Let me help you reflect.

5 in 5
Taxied into dirt at BDL
Stuck one into runway at TPA
WInglet through rudder during tact in CLT
Captain Shoot'em up
Captain Crash Ax
Etc, etc.

 

[Move2CLT]

Ok I will prove the drove drunk, please provide proof of AWA purchase receipt.

Drove Drunk.

Your turn.

Damn, got us good. Shut it down we sties, there's no fighting this guy. He's got some good stuff to throw at us.

Nice work Apollo.

 

[HPearlyretiree]

Ok I will prove the drove drunk, please provide proof of AWA purchase receipt.

Drove Drunk.

Your turn.

You need a hug. AWA is running this airline, AWA was the airline that wasn't days from liquidation. Doug is your boss.

Reality, it tends to mess you up a bit doesn't it?

Now, you work for a profitable airline, and they don't tolerate slacker pilots pulling concerted action crap. Do your job, push the cart. Lead, follow, or get out of the way. USAirways that you worked for is dead, you are expected to contribute, your past victimhood and whining are just farts in the wind, no one cares about your old life before you were bailed out.

 

[HPearlyretiree]

How many kids where killed by the drugs that HP management pilots flew into this country?

How sad.....You are making Jesus cry.

I heard that you ate bananas that were raised on farms that exploited their workers in S. America, you must hate labor, you are an evil capitalist!

(that is called reductio ad absurdium its a way of showing how stupid your argument is by creating an obviously equally stupid argument as a comparison.)

 

[luvn737s]

Unsafe practices. Let me help you reflect.

5 in 5
Taxied into dirt at BDL
Stuck one into runway at TPA
WInglet through rudder during tact in CLT
Captain Shoot'em up
Captain Crash Ax
Etc, etc.

And of course the ultimate in professional aviating , the Kansas City incident with a FAA Inspector on the jumpseat!

http://www.airdisaster.com/reports/ntsb/AAR90-04.pdf

 

[Move2CLT]

Damn, it's one thing after another with those east guys.

Hey Apollo, your turn. Don't you pull up some accidents the AWA wS involved in, especially the ones where a passenger died.

I'm waiting.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

You need a hug. AWA is running this airline, AWA was the airline that wasn't days from liquidation. Doug is your boss.

Reality, it tends to mess you up a bit doesn't it?

Now, you work for a profitable airline, and they don't tolerate slacker pilots pulling concerted action crap. Do your job, push the cart. Lead, follow, or get out of the way. USAirways that you worked for is dead, you are expected to contribute, your past victimhood and whining are just farts in the wind, no one cares about your old life before you were bailed out.

Were so profitable our debt to equity can't be measured! Good for speculators! I guess to you 1 win in 16 games is a winning season. http://www.minyanville.com/businessmarkets/articles/us-airways-airline-stocks-us-airways/8/18/2011/id/36429

 

[Harry Callahan]

You need a hug. AWA is running this airline,

For sure right in to the ground...

 

[HPearlyretiree]

For sure right in to the ground you idiot.

Sounds like another personal attack.

The ground is where US was, with dirt being piled on the corpse. Not there now..get it?

 

[luvn737s]

I don't see USAPA anywhere. Wait, is there someone throwing chocks into the engine?



http://www.flickr.com/photos/56865705@N06/6118139912/

This was the airline most of the west pilots signed onto.

 

[nic4us]

Ok I will prove the drove drunk, please provide proof of AWA purchase receipt.

Drove Drunk.

Your turn.

Pretty good circumstantial evidence.

The proof, as they say...is in the SEC pudding.

New article on first quarter profit.

TEMPE, Ariz., May 9 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The new US Airways Group, Inc. (NYSE: LCC) today reported a first quarter 2006 profit before the cumulative effect of a change in accounting principle of $64 million or $0.75 per diluted share. This compares to a profit before the cumulative effect of a change in accounting principle of $28 million or $1.29 per diluted share for the same period last year. Results for the new US Airways Group's first quarter 2006 are being compared to America West's standalone results for first quarter 2005 due to the former US Airways Group and America West Holdings Corporation merger on Sept. 27, 2005. Although the merger was structured so that America West became a wholly owned subsidiary of the new US Airways Group, America West was treated as the acquiring company for accounting purposes under Statement of Financial Accounting Standards No. 141 "Business Combinations."