US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Black Swan]

How are you going to serve them up to your friends? Tear them like lettuce add some cukes and a little French dressing you'll enjoy eating them better that way.

Good one Mikey. Let s get back to the harm issue Aqua always cries about. Did Aqua neglect to mention he got profit sharing from the beloved LOA 93 he loves to rag about? How about a vote in the pension investigation. Yes to that one too. Hmmmm. Where is the harm Aqua? Maybe you should have turned down all these USAPA deals you indulged in......is that harm? did the other groups get harmed by getting profit share and a vote? Dig deep boys. And you voted against pay parity for the east. Not looking so good Aqua.

 

[Phoenix]

The above photos are examples of what is occurring in our operation. The A-330 log book on the left was an attempt to dispatch this aircraft across the North Atlantic with no less than 10 MEL's. The log book on the right shows a box cutter that was recovered in the forward galley by a Flight Attendant during a flight to PHX. When the aircraft was met, Corporate Security blew it off as if this happens every day and seemed unconcerned and attempted to affix the blame on catering rather than a security theat.

CLT update letter , be careful out there, Just remember there is no safety issues at USAirways!!!

10 MELs is a bit much I suppose. MELs have become like POTA.

Now the SOP. I thought SOPs were supposed to be one of the barriers in Threat Error Management.

 

[cleardirect]

10 MELs is a bit much I suppose. MELs have become like POTA.

Now the SOP. I thought SOPs were supposed to be one of the barriers in Threat Error Management.

Wow! So 10 % of the entire airlines MEL's were on 1 airplane. What exactly were the MEL's? Something serious or a bunch of minor stuff? You and the union lack credibility when details like that are left out.

A. What we do is, at the beginning of the day, this says at
20 700 in the morning on all our fleets, we take a snapshot of
21 how many MELs we have on the airplane to start the day out.
22 And so if you look at this chart in 2008, January 2008,
23 we're averaging 200 MELs at the start of the day. And what
24 you have to do is look at that and say, well, how many
25 airplanes do we have. We have approximately, operating, 320

1 or 330 airplanes. So that would be out of every three
2 airplanes, two airplanes would have an MEL on.
3 Now, if you take that and look at where we are today,
4 which is -- when I say today, I'm talking about in this chart
5 in April of 2011, we're down to 100. So we've cut it down by
6 50 percent, and now we're talking about at the start of the
7 day, one out of every three airplanes has an MEL on it.
8 Q. If you look at the last page of the exhibit. And just
9 explain to us what's reflected there.

 

[Phoenix]

Wow! So 10 % of the entire airlines MEL's were on 1 airplane. What exactly were the MEL's? Something serious or a bunch of minor stuff? You and the union lack credibility when details like that are left out.

You have no idea what you are talking about and your hatred for the East has wrecked your objectivity for maintenance issues. When you are the chief pilot get back to me.

 

[Res Judicata]

You have no idea what you are talking about and your hatred for the East has wrecked your objectivity for maintenance issues. When you are the chief pilot get back to me.

The logbook was staged...as in not real....as is all things USAPA. Pathetic.

 

[Move2CLT]

I've heard that as well.

 

[cleardirect]

You have no idea what you are talking about and your hatred for the East has wrecked your objectivity for maintenance issues. When you are the chief pilot get back to me.

What don't I know? The quote is from Morrell UNDER OATH. Do you think Morrell lied on the stand? Charge him. He said that the fleet has 100 MEL's per day. That FDML had 10 supposed MEL's. 10 out of 100 is 10%. Or did I do my math wrong.

Did that update detail what each MEL was? No so I am not wrong to question if they are minor MEL's or if they are big MEL's.

So yes I do know what I am talking about. It appears that your hatred for the company has blinded you to accept anything usapa says as true while ignoring facts and questions.

I tell you what I can't read any of those MEL's. How about you have the CLT reps list what each MEL is and we will know for sure if they were a problem or not.Bring us a list. Are 9 of these lights bulbs? Tray tables? Coffee pot?

 

[luvthe9]

The logbook was staged...as in not real....as is all things USAPA. Pathetic.

Amazing, you west morons are more concerned about the logbook verses the box cutters and the companies response. WOW!!!

 

[Move2CLT]

Please. You guys don't give a damn either.

 

[prechilill]

The above photos are examples of what is occurring in our operation. The A-330 log book on the left was an attempt to dispatch this aircraft across the North Atlantic with no less than 10 MEL's. The log book on the right shows a box cutter that was recovered in the forward galley by a Flight Attendant during a flight to PHX. When the aircraft was met, Corporate Security blew it off as if this happens every day and seemed unconcerned and attempted to affix the blame on catering rather than a security theat.

CLT update letter , be careful out there, Just remember there is no safety issues at USAirways!!!

This post has to be a joke in poor taste. News like this would be all over the national headlines. Plus, you can't MEL a box cutter so what is mentioned above is total BS. The level you clowns out east will stoop to is remarkable.

 

[Phoenix]

What don't I know? The quote is from Morrell UNDER OATH. Do you think Morrell lied on the stand? Charge him. He said that the fleet has 100 MEL's per day. That FDML had 10 supposed MEL's. 10 out of 100 is 10%. Or did I do my math wrong.

Did that update detail what each MEL was? No so I am not wrong to question if they are minor MEL's or if they are big MEL's.

So yes I do know what I am talking about. It appears that your hatred for the company has blinded you to accept anything usapa says as true while ignoring facts and questions.

I tell you what I can't read any of those MEL's. How about you have the CLT reps list what each MEL is and we will know for sure if they were a problem or not.Bring us a list. Are 9 of these lights bulbs? Tray tables? Coffee pot?

You have no idea what you are talking about. You even admit that you don't know what the MELs are yet somehow you claim to read my mind and know that I hate the company and believe whatever USAPA says. I have no idea what the company or USAPA says about the MELs. I don't care what they have to say. I have plenty of empirical evidence about MELs.

I fly MELs on most flights. Its about a 50/50 chance whether or not an APU ever works. And those are the little ones.

When you become chief pilot give me a call.

 

[Res Judicata]

Amazing, you west morons are more concerned about the logbook verses the box cutters and the companies response. WOW!!!

Drop the drama queen b.s.. you know damn well maintenance leaves stuff behind all the time. I have found boxcutters in the cockpit over the last 10 years. BFD. Do you REALLY think terrorists can recreate 9-11 with frigging boxcutters again?!

What's truly sick is you Eastholes waiting with bated breath, hoping and praying every day that disaster will strike the Airline....anything for an excuse to run another Usa Today ad and shout, "We told you so!!!" To anybody that will listen because without your tragic disaster, you guys just look like bigger and bigger FOOLS. Everybody is on to you idiots. That's why USAPA is habitually ignored and relegated to irrelevant obscurity.

 

[Phoenix]

Drop the drama queen b.s.. you know damn well maintenance leaves stuff behind all the time. I have found boxcutters in the cockpit over the last 10 years. BFD. Do you REALLY think terrorists can recreate 9-11 with frigging boxcutters again?!

What's truly sick is you Eastholes waiting with bated breath, hoping and praying every day that disaster will strike the Airline....anything for an excuse to run another Usa Today ad and shout, "We told you so!!!" To anybody that will listen because without your tragic disaster, you guys just look like bigger and bigger FOOLS. Everybody is on to you idiots. That's why USAPA is habitually ignored and relegated to irrelevant obscurity.

Its so obscure you can't ever remember what the hell you are trying to say.

 

[prechilill]

You have no idea what you are talking about. You even admit that you don't know what the MELs are yet somehow you claim to read my mind and know that I hate the company and believe whatever USAPA says. I have no idea what the company or USAPA says about the MELs. I don't care what they have to say. I have plenty of empirical evidence about MELs.

I fly MELs on most flights. Its about a 50/50 chance whether or not an APU ever works. And those are the little ones.

When you become chief pilot give me a call.

If your APU is only operable 50% of the time it's because you are too much like Valery Wells- you have no clue how to operate it.

 

[Phoenix]

If your APU is only operable 50% of the time it's because you are too much like Valery Wells- you have no clue how to operate it.

Aren't you the quick one today. Pilots don't try to operate an APU that is on MEL. Not even Eastholes. 🙄