US Pilots Labor Discussion

[mikey60]

With the size of AA being what it is, unless I'm not understanding correctly is that they are large enough to staple the US pilots to the bottom of their seniority lists and essentially there is nothing US pilots can do about it?

Boyo, Boyo that would be a giant splash of Karmic Justice now wouldn't it?

Get out of the picture until you know what you are talking about.

 

[Reed Richards]

Interesting opener. Of course, that means that the east would expect a goodly share of the AA 767-200/300 seats (they have 73 vs 10 for US). Plus a goodly share of the AA 757 seats (AA 124, US 24). Plus a share of new deliveries of 767/777 that AA has on order (US 0). Plus, if the C&R's look anything like what's been offered to the westies there'd be little protection. And you really think APA or the American pilots would jump on that? If so, they've probably got some bridges and swampland to sell you first...

My guess is that AA pilots might settle for relative position by equip/model/seat (giving them the top of the list for the 777/767-300) then a ratio for the rest determined by the number of each equivalent type (7.3 AA pilots to 1 US pilot for the 7672, 5 AA to 1 US for the 757, etc). But that definitely wouldn't be their opener. Of course, you could push for arbitration - when was the last DOH arbitration award?

Jim

Amazing. Did you even read my message?

RR

 

[cactusboy53]

Its called fragmentation! There is no West value there will ne no jcba with the nic to bargain just a bunch of West crybabies!

Keep clickin' those heels Dorothy, Oz is just around the corner!

 

[HPearlyretiree]

That probably gives you a hire date of around 1998, so you were probably still in high school when the rest of us were hired...

You damned kids! Get off my lawn!!!!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Keep clickin' those heels Dorothy, Oz is just around the corner!

Fantasy for you , but the reality is for you not very pleasant!

 

[luvthe9]

Well the ground is starting to shake just a bit!!

 

[SparrowHawk]

Size 13 right up your a$$.

Ah now Mikey don't be upset, you can still fly the really big planes someday.

just remember you're a Pilot as in skilled professional

Instead of the "Pile-It" you are right now stacking the BS higher and deeper. 😀

 

[cleardirect]

Well the ground is starting to shake just a bit!!

But you said that Friday was it. Now the ground is only starting to shake? When your house is built on sand it only takes a little shake to bring down the whole thing.

Seham built on quicksand and now even the builder has been thrown out by usapa.The only thing left will be rubble.

 

[Move2CLT]

That probably gives you a hire date of around 1998, so you were probably still in high school when the rest of us were hired....no way you're going ahead of us on SLI, junior. Obviously, we will do whatever is necessary to keep from getting that kind of screw job and you guys are naive to think anything different....especially since the NIC was flawed to start with.

breeze

He's already ahead of you on the new list.

You can do what you want, but in the end it will always be Nic. You're naive to think anything different.

The only one flawed here is the eastie who thinks anything other than the Nic is going to happen.

 

[SparrowHawk]

😛h34r:

Amazing, two who don't work here, and one who says he is UAL, but posts on this thread some sixteen hundred times.Correction, over 3000 times! . All over this thing. What is the agenda??? I wonder.Do you think Jetzz might have been furloughed from UAL after the 9 11 mess, and picked up a West number?

He doesn't need an agenda or employment with US Airways to render an opinion. Furthermore he doesn't need your permission to post. Maybe he, like I post on this thread because you egomaniacial F*ucktards hi jack every other thread anyway.

Reading and posting here feed my Jerry Springer addiction since he's on when I work.

So you and your A330 sized ego & sense of entitlement have a good night now, bless your heart!

 

[luvn737s]

That probably gives you a hire date of around 1998, so you were probably still in high school when the rest of us were hired...

Nope, that makes him a CAPT. (or very shortly so). No bump no flush means he'll be a CA out east.

Most guys at AWA were hired in their 30's, they felt a certain degree of seasoning was required before you got to the SHOW. Evidently, AAA felt differently ( or were desperate to fill seats before AA and UA grabbed their interviewees).

 

[BoeingBoy]

Amazing. Did you even read my message?

Absolutely. I guess you mean the part about pre-merger widebodies protected by C&R's. Well, USAPA better come up with a lot better C&R's to achieve that than they're offering the westies cause those put a fence around PHX with a one-way door - easties can get in but westies pay a big price to get out.

Jim

 

[A320 Driver]

Absolutely. I guess you mean the part about pre-merger widebodies protected by C&R's. Well, USAPA better come up with a lot better C&R's to achieve that than they're offering the westies cause those put a fence around PHX with a one-way door - easties can get in but westies pay a big price to get out.

Jim

If they wanted C&Rs with some teeth, they should state that an East pilot can only bid unbid vacancies in PHX. The company will shrink PHX to whatever extent the contract will let them. That's the only way to preserve the flying there for West pilots.

The NIC doesn't even do that...

Driver

 

[cleardirect]

RR, This one would likely be the easiest of all. It would almost not matter how the list turned out with a 10-12 yr. fence and maintaining status quo fleet size and min block hours. The AA guys are no dummies. They would likely jump all over a DOH w/freeze. It would be a no loose deal. They don't need to fight and they sure as hell understand the damage the Nic would cause where the youngsters would be placed ahead of them when the freeze was up.

V

So sure about that are you? Just like you guys all knew that DOH would be how we integrated.

The damage that AA sees is the east pilots being merged with their group. Just like the rest of the industry has seen the damage the west pilots have suffered because of the east pilots. Your reputation proceeds you. And that ain't a good thing for east pilots.

 

[flypg]

So sure about that are you? Just like you guys all knew that DOH would be how we integrated.

The damage that AA sees is the east pilots being merged with their group. Just like the rest of the industry has seen the damage the west pilots have suffered because of the east pilots. Your reputation proceeds you. And that ain't a good thing for east pilots.

Do you even read what you write ?...Dude !...It's DOH for you in PHX and far into the future, get used to it. Dont like it ? Quit and move on. Binding ? You were hired at best in the late 80's and and want to leapfrog over pilots hired years and no furlough ? Really ?