US Pilots Labor Discussion

[john john]

President's Update to the Board: October 14, 2011

Board Members,

This is a recap of this week’s activities.



Mike Cleary said: "Today I finished communicating to the various members of the new Ad Hoc IBT Investigatory Committee and have gotten that committee appointed and ready to work. I think we produced a great cross section of pilots for this committee and expect them to work well and efficiently together to accomplish their work in a timely manner."

USA320 comments: With such a major decision such as a merger with a union that represents Express, Non-Sched, Fractional Jet pilots, fuelers, dispatchers, F/A's, stock clerks etc. should the BPR and pilots know who Cleary appointed to this Committee?

You can add USAirway Passenger Service Agents to the that list

 

[crazystnic]

Four pilot seniority arbitrations in a row say it is not.

Is it righteous to renege on a mutually agreed upon arbitration process?

you guys keep repeating this mantra, but it's total bs, while there were integrations that did not go DOH, they were integrations, but none were the slaughter of the NIC...

 

[Phoenix]

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USA320 comments: It appears...

Your qualification of "appears" means I should just take a sip of my coffee and watch while others hit panic buttons, pull fire handles, and flip upside down. 🙄

 

[luvn737s]

you guys keep repeating this mantra, but it's total bs, while there were integrations that did not go DOH, they were integrations, but none were the slaughter of the NIC...

Translation - "It's all about ME!"

Drop the s from slaughter and you have everyone else's opinion.

 

[BoeingBoy]

but none were the slaughter of the NIC...

You for got to add in your humble opinion...

Jim

 

[Res Judicata]

LOA 93 so bad Easties turn to pills.

 

[767jetz]

LOA 93 so bad Easties turn to pills.

Hmmmm... So now we can add drug runner to the east pilot's calling card, along with pedophile. You hear that Nos/Sum/Claxon/Apollo? Cat have your tongue?

Looks like after his psychotic rant 2 days ago, he finally got himself muzzled! 😀

 

[Piedmont1984]

I guess it would be a little late in the game to request that everyone keep it civil :blink:

 

[doh nogo]

Looks like after his psychotic rant 2 days ago, he finally got himself muzzled! 😀

If it's true then it's about time! That guy had some serious issues. Meanwhile, we're still all here. Of course he'll just resurrect as another screen name and start his BS all over again.

 

[doh nogo]

I guess it would be a little late in the game to request that everyone keep it civil :blink:

Definitely late for that. Since the moderators let the cooks out of the asylum last year this place has become overrun with a foul stench.

But if apollo and Claxon are truly "muzzled" as 767jetz says, I'm willing to give it a try.

 

[SparrowHawk]

If it's true then it's about time! That guy had some serious issues. Meanwhile, we're still all here. Of course he'll just resurrect as another screen name and start his BS all over again.

Yep and when he makes his unfounded allegation I'll be up his arse again. I'm not letting him breathe on that one. I took way to much heat now it's coming back his way.

The man is about as sharp as a bowling ball

 

[im back..!!]

Hmmmm... So now we can add drug runner to the east pilot's calling card, along with pedophile. You hear that Nos/Sum/Claxon/Apollo? Cat have your tongue?

Looks like after his psychotic rant 2 days ago, he finally got himself muzzled! 😀

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United Pilot Arrested Before Flying Drunk to Chicago
More than 100 passengers spared a DUI flight. ... United Pilot Arrested Before Flying Drunk to Chicago United Airlines pilot arrested in London for being "under the influence"
www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/United...Pilot-Arrested-in... - Cached
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United Airlines Pilot And Accomplices Arrested For Flying ...
A United Airlines pilot based in San Francisco is charged with flying 173 pounds of marijuana to the Shelby-Cleveland County Regional Airport.
www.flightschoollist.com/aviation-articles/2010/08/...
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united pilot arrested | MEDICAL SUPPLIES STORE
Pilot accused of drug dealing seeks house arrest The Mercury Prosecutors previously alleged the methamphetamine was manufactured in Mexico and sent to Las Vegas, which is ...
medicalsuppliesstore.org/united-pilot-arrested - Cached
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united pilot arrested denver dec 2010 | MEDICAL SUPPLIES STORE
Commentary from Citizens for Legitimate Government: 26/9/11 Scoop.co.nz The indictment alleges that Doyon, using the nickname 'Commander X', was part of an online protest ...
medicalsuppliesstore.org/united-pilot-arrested-denver... - Cached
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Sorry, but had to add the second article...Pilot calls himself "Commander X"??? is this the demented hiring practiceses...never mind, we wont go there

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United Airlines pilot charged with flying drugs to Shelby
SHELBY - A United Airlines pilot based in San Francisco is charged with ... All are from California and now face drug trafficking and conspiracy charges.
www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/08/28/1648027/united... - Cached

As they say, read'em and weep....not callin anybody, or group out, we all have our dead fish in the closet, its just those with a narrow field of vision, somtimes need a convex lens.....smiles)

 

[Barrister]

A court already did issue an injunction on USAPA to use the NIC for negotiations when the DFR was evaluated based on the merits. If judge Silver doesn't do the same then USAPA is welcome to try and pass a contract with DOH in it and then see what happens in DFR II (except that Management will not give in if it means a collusion risk). The only thing USAPA has won thus far is a very costly legal delay with no resolution.

What are you talking about with "your narrow Christian mind"? My mind is only narrowed by accepting truth and rejecting lies. Have you tried expressing a statement of truth in North Korea? Here's a quote from North Korean Christians website:


Are you bragging about this kind of treatment of fellow human beings because of what they believe in?

And then there is: Myanmar/Burma


Do you want to threaten me and my family in a similar manner to the treatment Christians receive in these countries where you claim Christian beliefs are "working"? Do you want to burn down my house, run me over with a steamroller, kill my children? Is that what your are suggesting? Is that how bad you want to win this seniority dispute? Whatever works for you. No matter what you do to me in this life I know I will stand before the judgement seat of Christ which is a throne of grace and mercy instead of the Great White Throne where those whose names are not written in the Lamb's Book of Life will be cast into the outer darkness where there will weeping and gnashing of teeth day and night forever. The choice is yours, not mine.

Please dude you need to chill. To each his own. Leave your religion out of airline discussions. Good article in this months pro pilot.
Saudis would not hire local pilots. Why....in a crunch they would let Allah decide the outcome....rather than skill. Get over yourself.

NICDOA
NPJB

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

you guys keep repeating this mantra, but it's total bs, while there were integrations that did not go DOH, they were integrations, but none were the slaughter of the NIC...

If you could please explain why this wasn't hashed out prior to "final & binding"?

As I understand it, East never offered anything other than DOH.

When it was recommended, in no uncertain terms, that something other than DOH would be necessary - nothing happened.

I know that to be true.

Was it always the plan to delay or was it a miscalculation of what the arbitrator might decide?

Really, the time to make compromises on LOS would appear to have been BEFORE the arbitrator decides.

Was this ever discussed - ever?

If it was the plan to delay all along, then carry on.

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

"final & binding"

You have no idea what "final and binding" means.

The indisputable fact that ALPA included two other rulings that required ratification by each group, left a rather large loophole to escape any arbitration. You know that, we all know that, though I have to admire the west dancing around the nut of the argument. You will never get the "nic". Until at least it means nothing anymore, perhaps when the sun goes nova.

Have a good day. Heh, I've got a good idea, how about holding your breath until the "nic" gets "imposed". Do it! I am certain it will work....