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Here ya go easties. Another year of having to be good. Better keep those yellow lanyards put away.


Pretrial Order and Case Management Plan: Estimated Trial Time: 5-7 days. Discovery due by 6/1/2012. Motions due by 7/2/2012. Mediation deadline set for 4/6/2012. Jury Trial set for 10/22/2012 09:30 AM in Courtroom 2, 401 W Trade St, Charlotte, NC 28202 before Chief Judge Robert J. Conrad Jr. Signed by Chief Judge Robert J. Conrad, Jr on 11/8/2011.
 
clear,

You missed this part of Cleary's letter.


I have called your Board into session this weeIk to conduct a strategy session on the DJ case. I will be proposing a variety of bold initiatives that will alter strategy and tactics but will remain true to the objective that USAPA pilots believe in to our core. Immediately following this week's meeting, I will write to you to explain in detail these initiatives.


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So how do you remain true to your objective (DOH cramdown) and seek a real world solution (compromise)?

You don't.

What you do have is pandering for votes and nothing more.
 
Answer a question with a question. .
I'm trying to help you hair Pi. You know the answer to your questions and all I want to do is help you find them on your own.

You easties have a nasty tendency to be lazy and not make an effort to find answers for yourselves.

I'm here to help you change.
 
Your calm, rational, and unemotional delivery commands rapt attention. Oh, pardon me I am being distracted now as I watch my fingernails grow. :lol:

So.....again you have failed to watch the video and have made the assumption that the Captain is someone else entirely. No worries. You will be eventually schooled by the court system (since your moral & ethical code have completely failed you). Have a great day.
 
So what's your point? (As if we care.)

Point being is that if you have to ask AND you wrap it up in "AS IF WE CARE", you yourself are admitting that you have failed and that's the hardest part. Look I really dont care if you ever get anything better, you can live on the streets of Philly and pan handle for a living and it wont effect me one bit. Now when your garbage effects me and my ability to provide for my home and family is when I get up in arms. The lack of integrity on your part to accept the results of our agreement effects me as I am losing money as a result. The contract I work under was amendable a couple years ago and your stalling in what has been a complete and utter failure costs my family. Get your s hit together and grow up!!

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This is so good that I had to share it here with the easties.


IMHO, Mediation/Negotiation is unlikely to be imposed by Silver.
1. The DJ is about about answering company liability on accepting a SL, not resolving the dispute created by east pilots over the NIC.
2. For the plaintiffs (AOL) to be given the authority to mediate would require Silver reaching inside RLA law to modify the TA to name the West plaintiffs as the third party to replace the West MEC. This would also change the structure of the USAPA union. Like Wake realized for his injunction, Federal judges lack the power to do such a thing. Wake's injunction simply ordered USAPA to follow the TA. 
3. USAPA and the company cannot agree to change the TA on their own to allow the plaintiffs to replace the west MEC in the TA without inquiring liability - the subject of the DJ. As many have said, USAPA closed the door to changing anything in the TA (the NIC) when they eliminated the West MEC.
4. If any of the above actually occurred, then, the closed section in TA on seniority integration would have to be agreed to be amended by all three parties to allow a new process (negotiation). Given the concessionary contract USAPA is negotiating for the West, negligible pay increase and potential for job displacement, there is no reason for the majority of West pilots to agree to such a thing. The NIC is all we the west pilots have for protection.
5. The 9th said that USAPA can modify the award to the extent that its predecessor (ALPA) could. ALPA could not legally modify the NIC and neither can USAPA.

USAPA has a habit of advancing a pretext of compromise when they are losing (RICO). This mediation/negotiation talk continues that pattern. As Wake said in doc 593, USAPA's purpose is to advance the interests of the east at the expense of the west. Mediation/Negotiation serves this purpose.
 
Point being is that if you have to ask AND you wrap it up in "AS IF WE CARE", you yourself are admitting that you have failed and that's the hardest part. Look I really dont care if you ever get anything better, you can live on the streets of Philly and pan handle for a living and it wont effect me one bit. Now when your garbage effects me and my ability to provide for my home and family is when I get up in arms. The lack of integrity on your part to accept the results of our agreement effects me as I am losing money as a result. The contract I work under was amendable a couple years ago and your stalling in what has been a complete and utter failure costs my family. Get your s hit together and grow up!!

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So what's your point? (AIWC)
 
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