US Pilots Labor Discussion

[A320 Driver]

Oh, well there's more coming your way so if tonight is any indication his poor behavior and potty mouth will get a whole lot worse. Hopefully he gets suspended for his foul language, it is really not appropriate here.

Then WHY is MOVE2CLT still here? I'm sure you've high fived him a time or two.


Driver <_<

 

[Injunction junction]

They must be so embarrassed.

I dont know, are you?? I took my cue from you east folk. You see in all seriousness I have tried over the years to be rational with the east and it got me nowhere. There is no amount of time that can fix what you and your brethren have done to us. The actions of the east pilot group as a whole have been ridiculous. In the smallest denomination you have stolen from us then lied to us kick us and insulted us. What in your mind would be an appropriate response to this?

Injunction

 

[Pi brat]

Then WHY is MOVE2CLT still here? I'm sure you've high fived him a time or two.


Driver <_<

I guess the constant stream of GDs doesn't bother her.

 

[Injunction junction]

Don't think so. Don't lick your chops, he has been through much more than this in his life.

Maybe he should consider retirement in that case and spend what ever time he has left with his family.

Injunction

 

[cactusboy53]

Not snotty at all. You do realize he is not a pilot, right?

Then why on earth would he spend his time here and banter about? If not a pilot, why would he ask SPECIFICALLY about "attrition upgrades on the east" and references the rightful (PHL, CLT, DCA) upgrade of a West pilot as "the west can hole the east upgrades"?? Further, the Leonidas group has had a public website where anyone for some time now (even the news media goes there for facts!): http://www.cactuspilot.com/

Frequent posters on this board have seen the sight mentioned over and over. No secret. Just myopic viewing.

 

[Pi brat]

What in your mind would be an appropriate response to this?

Injunction

I'm not happy with a lot of east and west pilot actions.

You could fight your fight and save the belligerent, arrogant comments. Many of your west coworkers do just that. The comments do not help the cause of either side.

 

[Pi brat]

Then why on earth would he spend his time here and banter about? If not a pilot, why would he ask SPECIFICALLY about "attrition upgrades on the east" and references the rightful (PHL, CLT, DCA) upgrade of a West pilot as "the west can hole the east upgrades"?? Further, the Leonidas group has had a public website where anyone for some time now (even the news media goes there for facts!): http://www.cactuspilot.com/

Frequent posters on this board have seen the sight mentioned over and over. No secret. Just myopic viewing.

Well, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he is not a pilot. Maybe he is just curious, but not curious enough to go to the cp.com.

You could have just answered his question in much less time than it took you to do your snotty reply.

 

[cactusboy53]

Well, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he is not a pilot. Maybe he is just curious, but not curious enough to go to the cp.com.

You could have just answered his question in much less time than it took you to do your snotty reply.

Sorry. It's been 4+ years of being hijacked by you folks. The legal, ethical, moral and right thing to do was to hold to your word and move on. Instead, you have forced us to pay dues to the new "union" which in turn have used our funds AGAINST us and have FORCED us into a defensive position - also costing us additional personal funds. Further, our "union" has spent these dues to unsuccessfully persecute a large group of our pilots on RICO charges, also forcing us to defend those pilots as well.

We have been dragged along this little ride unwillingly, and at high personal cost. You will be forced to do what is legally correct, and with any luck you will also have to pay for damages that you have incurred. The damages to your reputation as a pilot group will never be undone.

The AWA pilot group will stand together and fight this to the very legally correct conclusion. We are more untied and funded than you could possibly imagine.

Sour? Nope. Just sick and tired of paying for your mistakes, and having to force you down the right path. Hey, I have a great idea: Take 2/3 to 3/4 of our dues money and place it in escrow. You guys can assess the east pilot group for you litany of litigation. What do you say?

 

[Injunction junction]

I'm not happy with a lot of east and west pilot actions.

You could fight your fight and save the belligerent, arrogant comments. Many of your west coworkers do just that. The comments do not help the cause of either side.

Pi I give as well as I get. REMEMBER just this morning I pointed out to you that I had said nothing to you directly yet you FREELY AND WILLFULLY decided to attack me with name calling. That action was unprovoked and childish on your part. Now you come here and ask that I not say the things I have. This is a fine example of not accepting responsibility for your actions. It was your DIRECT action that caused my reaction.

Injunction

 

[Pi brat]

Sorry. It's been 4+ years of being hijacked by you folks. The legal, ethical, moral and right thing to do was to hold to your word and move on. Instead, you have forced us to pay dues to the new "union" which in turn have used our funds AGAINST us and have FORCED us into a defensive position - also costing us additional personal funds. Further, our "union" has spent these dues to unsuccessfully persecute a large group of our pilots on RICO charges, also forcing us to defend those pilots as well.

We have been dragged along this little ride unwillingly, and at high personal cost. You will be forced to do what is legally correct, and with any luck you will also have to pay for damages that you have incurred. The damages to your reputation as a pilot group will never be undone.

The AWA pilot group will stand together and fight this to the very legally correct conclusion. We are more untied and funded than you could possibly imagine.

Sour? Nope. Just sick and tired of paying for your mistakes, and having to force you down the right path. Hey, I have a great idea: Take 2/3 to 3/4 of our dues money and place it in escrow. You guys can assess the east pilot group for you litany of litigation. What do you say?

Wow! Quite a speech, but what does that have to do with johnjohn's post?

You sound desperate CB. Didn't your lawyers tell you how long the path you set out on would take? Or is that's what's getting you?

 

[Pi brat]

Pi I give as well as I get. REMEMBER just this morning I pointed out to you that I had said nothing to you directly yet you FREELY AND WILLFULLY decided to attack me with name calling. That action was unprovoked and childish on your part. Now you come here and ask that I not say the things I have. This is a fine example of not accepting responsibility for your actions. It was your DIRECT action that caused my reaction.

Injunction

Oh, it was unprovoked? Really? You make all kinds of ahole posts about my group, then you can whine when I say what they are. So you can give what you get, but scream like a stuck pig when you get called on it? Integrity, again. What a joke.

My, my.....can dish it out but not take it?

I didn't TELL you WHAT to do. You asked me what you could do, and I shared my view and many of your coworkers do just that. Here's your quote: "What in your mind would be an appropriate response to this". I gave you my opinion, it's an option...........

 

[Pi brat]

Hey IJ, I do owe you an apology. I asked uhaul if you were his twin. That is quite an insult and I apologize. 🙂

 

[luvn737s]

PHX base, fleet minimum need I go on?

Injunction

Sure, try. Denying a vote is a DFR regardless of which side promotes it. Things have to move on. If pressed to the wall PHX (or any other hub) will go away as would fleet mins if Parker needed it for survival.

Build a better union rather than playing petty games.

 

[luvn737s]

Injection Junction = More embarrassment for which the west pilots have to apologize. These guys on LTD with nothing but time on their hands ought to get out and at least pick up their prescriptions. Maybe they get blood pressure and Prozac combined in a little Gummy Bear.

 

[mikey60]

Dont start in on me Pi as I have pretty much left you alone for the time being.

Injunction

OOOOOOOH! I bet the boots at the Pi house are shake'in.